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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:29 PM
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You have got to be kidding me!?!?!?
MSNBC just said that Bush is asking Jack Van Impe for his opinions on Middle East policy and asking him to draw an outline plan.....
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:32 PM
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1. "Foreign policy by Jesus?"
Yeah, a solid 50% of 'murka is probably down with that.

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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:39 PM
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7. I'd be down with that
If it were based on Jesus and not on the "Jeezus" the the repug, RW mouth-frothing fundies keep talking about.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:34 PM
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2. are you serious?
this could be the break we've been looking for! Bush consulting an end-times huckster! "We won't be needing any election is 04. In fact, I'm hopin' there won't be a 2004 for anybody except myself"
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:35 PM
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4. Nothing
is too outrageous for him to get away with.
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buckfush2 Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:40 PM
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8. If our great leader wants to get the advice of leading religious figures
you should get down on your knees and praise God that he is such a decent and honorable man.
Then when the end times come you MIGHT have a chance to be saved, and not be "Left Behind"

<my prediction on how the media will play this>
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 08:02 PM
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13. Anybody ever read or see "The Dead Zone?"
I have to agree with you on this one, T. * is a dry-drunk, born-again freak and talks about having God show him the way. I'm sure he has apocalyptic notions and/or visions.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 08:54 PM
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18. Read it? We're LIVING IT!
:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

"The missiles are away, General."
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 09:19 PM
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23. Watch next week's episode of The Dead Zone
I know that you are quoting from the movie, but are you aware of the TV series that is currently airing on the USA Network. Next week's episode is supposed to be part of the Greg Stillson arc. It is on Sunday Night at 9:00PM Central Time. It is an excellent show.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 09:28 PM
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26. I can't -- no cable TV
Got sick of Feeding the Beast.

But football season is coming, so for 4 months I will probably turn it back on.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:35 PM
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3. Check here
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Yaoi_Huntress_Earth Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:35 PM
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5. Ho Boy!
Why do I have the feeling this is going to cause more bloodshed? A lot of televaglists these days have this End of Times masterbation fantasy that gives me the creeps.
Love,
Yaoi Huntress Earth
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:35 PM
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6. Check this DU thread . . .
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:44 PM
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9. You have GOT to be kidding me
that is so f-in crazy....
I hope EVERYBODY hears about this.
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pink_poodle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:48 PM
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10. JVImpe has been doing end times prophesy for about 20 years...........
If Bush is getting advice from him, well that is just about the most screwed up thing I've ever heard of. And dangerous too. And it makes Bush look even more incompetent than we all thought. Geez, this is getting really creepy now......
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:52 PM
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11. And It is official
Sanity has left the building. I feel like the guy from “Hitchhiker Guide” who said he was entering the Insane Asylum every time he left his house.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 07:53 PM
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12. Holy Crap
My sunglasses just got completely black! I can't see a thing!

That's a bad sign...

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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 08:45 PM
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16. Maybe we should just stick our heads in the sand,
Hate and insanity has triumphed over compassion and logic. The only reason Bush is down in the poll is because we stopped dropping bombs. If we started dropping bombs on Iran next week Bush* would once again be the nations beloved leader.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 09:22 PM
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24. most don't wanna be next...
they wanna give the chimp a lotta leeway since there's NO TELL'N what this madman might do next :scared:

:lightbulb: ah, ha.... now i get it! the DLC strat ;->

peace
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 08:15 PM
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14. F*cking Christ!
Edited on Wed Aug-13-03 08:16 PM by liberalmuse
A guy with really bad hair and a hard-on for Armeggedon is going to draw up our M.E. policy? I'm dreaming. Please....wake me the *&%$ up!
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 08:24 PM
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15. ACK! I saw Van Impe talk about this a few weeks ago (This is a [bad] sign)
Edited on Wed Aug-13-03 08:26 PM by nu_duer
This is the only "religious" show I watch, partly because, without cable, it is usually the most interesting thing on at that time of night.

A few weeks ago, Van Impe was asking viewers to pray for him to give good advice to bush for his mideast "plan."

Van Impe is the one who, on almost every show of his I've seen, goes on and on about how the Bible mandates, in prophecy, that Armageddon will be seen in our lifetime, and it will include the revived Roman Empire (the EU), and that all nations, Russia singled out many times, would move against Israel, and that as the world is plunged into chaos and misery, Christians should rejoice because the return of the Lord will be imminent.

If that's what he believes, that's fine with me, but he is now advising the crusading moron with an itchy finger and nukes galore on how to impose the will of the Israeli government, er, I mean the will of the US government, on that region. This cannot end well.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 08:55 PM
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19. Keep this kicked folks
Any idea how to get this out of the gossip column and onto the front pages?

Mr & Mrs America and all the ships at sea need to know about this.

I doubt seriously that the great middle America will want their fearless leader promoting the end of time.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 08:50 PM
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17. Exit Policy
As someone else alrady said in this thread nothing is too outrageous for them to get away with & they'll probably get away with this too.

At least it clears up one thing: They don't have an exit strategy for Iraq becuase they think they don't need one because they will cause the end of the world to occur. Lovely. Not only are these guys fascist bastards, they are INSANE fascist bastards.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 09:07 PM
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20. Apocalypse Now! -- The all new and improved 2003 remake.
Coming soon to a screen near you.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 09:13 PM
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21. OMFG KICK
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 09:17 PM
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22. This is even better than Nancy Reagan ...
Consulting astrologers while Ronnie was in the White House.
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Iluvleiberman Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 09:27 PM
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25. Who is Jack Van Impe?
Color me dumb. Who is he?
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 09:48 PM
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27. TV evangelist.
Try a Google search. I'm sure you'll find lots there.
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 11:25 PM
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28. Kick
Then runs to puke...
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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terryg11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 11:31 PM
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29. Georgie boy must be pulling rank
Rove and Cheney telling him, no that may not be a good idea pr or logic wise. Bush getting all huffy and saying "who's the president here again?" threats and insults fly around the ranch meeting room until finally the two "adults" let the kid have his way, realizing they will just ixnay whatever the hell that crazy Impe suggests.

How else can you explain it? It doesn't make any sense no matter how much what VAn Impe says falls in line with their beliefs on the mid east?
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:59 AM
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30. kick
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:31 AM
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31. dupe
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