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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:38 PM
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Is it just me, or is Patty Davis the new
Nancy Sinatra wannabe.

She seems to pay more attention to the camera then she does to anything else.

Also, when Mrs. Reagan broke down (understandably), there is Patty hugging her mother; however, Patty is not shedding a tear. I do not understand why Ron is not taking care of his mother. I believe they had a better relationship (as I have read) than their daughter who constantly embarrassed her parents.

I think Patty Davis is looking for her performance here to maybe kick start her comeback . . . that is, if she ever had a career anyone cared about.

Plus, why is Merv Griffin there????
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:41 PM
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1. Patty Davis
might get a role in a sideshow somewhere..Hardly anything glamourous about her, plus, her legs are a mess.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:41 PM
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2. several things
People grieve in different ways. Given the long demise here it is understandable that some people aren't crying. Also Merv Griffen has been a friend of the Reagans for years.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:44 PM
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4. True..
it isn't as if he died unexpectedly..They've been prepared for this a long time..However, no matter how prepared a family is, when all the hoopla is over, they will feel a sense of loss even though he's been gone a long time already since every family is different in their grieving process.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:46 PM
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7. Merv Griffin's face was so red he looked like he
was going to have a heart attack.

I understand him being a close friend; however, this was for immediate family. I suppose it is their choice which is understandable.
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:43 PM
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3. it's definitely not just you ...
... seemed to me that PD "executed" way too much and too obvious play performance (what, she didn't have a BLACK blouse, or did she want to be able to be quickly spotted by the cameras?) -- what a contrast to Ron!
also, so obvious that Michael, the adopted son of RR and Jany Wyman, is being granted "second row" seats and showing ... I wonder why

Merv Griffin has been designated as pall barer and is a VERY close friend of this family.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:45 PM
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6. Has it been announced
who is the 6th pallbearer? I only heard 5 mentioned thus far.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:48 PM
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9. Who are the five going to be? (nt)
(Nt)
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:18 PM
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19. the 6th will be Mulroney
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/06/07/mulroney_reagan040607
<snip>
Nancy Reagan, the former U.S. president's widow, called Mulroney on Sunday to ask him to take part in the state funeral set for Friday in Washington.
<snip>
Mulroney's name did not appear on the official list of honorary pallbearers released Sunday by Reagan family chief of staff Joanne Drake.

Names on that list included Frederick J. Ryan Jr., board chairman of the Ronald Reagan Foundation; entertainer Merv Griffin, a family friend; Charles Wick, who ran the U.S. Information Agency during Reagan's presidency; White House adviser Michael Deaver; and the former president's longtime physician, Dr. John Hutton.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:45 PM
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5. Merv Griffin's Response When Informed of Reagan's Passing
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 01:45 PM by CO Liberal
"Oooooooooooooooooo....."

(Those who remember Merv's talk show will recall that was Merv's response to just about everything.)

:-)
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:48 PM
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10. Hey, who's the DUer who has that 'Merv Griffin' sig?
Still don't know what the hell it meant, but it was pretty funny.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:59 PM
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14. I can just hear it!
That is perfect.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:46 PM
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8. Aside from what the press will tell us, this was a highly disfuntional fam
ily unit. Ronnie was not soooo loved at home
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:52 PM
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11. I was watching bette midler last night
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 01:52 PM by chimpsrsmarter
on Actors studio and during a commercial i switched A&E who were running a Reagan-a-thon and they showed his California Ranch. Did you know that only he and Nancy slept in the main house? they had the children sleep in the guest cottages. Real warn and fuzzy.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:55 PM
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12. Just wait till the will is read…
Mikey may be in for a surprise.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:58 PM
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13. Oh, Oh, Oh . . .
This one post has made my day. I love it, I love it, I love it.

Michael Reagan should get nothing as he has used his adopted father's name to get to where he is now. He would not have his own talk show without it. Plus, he has made plenty of the money on the back of his adopted father's name. I hope he gets nada, zilch. As far as the other two surviving children . . . Patty only called upon her family when she needed money (per her mother), and I think Ron pretty much did the same.

I hope it all goes to a charity.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:00 PM
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16. I Hope Ronnie Had a Guilty Conscience at the Last Moment....
...and left everything to the DNC.

:-)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:11 PM
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18. You say "adopted" like it's a second class word.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:38 PM
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24. Actually, Michael Reagan is a Second-Class Human Being.
:-)
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 12:03 PM
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26. (laughing). That is true; however, I do not think it is
because he is adopted.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 12:02 PM
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25. I'm sorry that you have misunderstood. I in no way intended
to say the because Michael Reagan is adopted that he is any less a son or member of the family. However, Nancy Reagan did feel that way toward Maureen and Michael. They were the ones that lived in the guest houses while Patty and Ron Jr. lived in the main house with her and big daddy.

I have 2 cousins who are adopted; and they are just as much my cousins as my birth cousins.

Sorry if I have offended anyone who has been adopted. What is it, Jamie Lee Curtis wrote a children's book on adoption. I think it said that adopted children are very special because they were picked to be members of the family.

Sorry.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:59 PM
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15. Some people don't like to
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 01:59 PM by supernova
openly grieve in public... just not comfortable with it. Perhaps Patty is like that.

People grieve in different ways. Let them be.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:03 PM
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17. I didn't cry at my father's funeral either. My tears were in private.
My mother was a basket case, so I had to have the strength and dry eyes to get her through it.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:20 PM
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20. I dont cry over deaths either, lets not be silly here,
Like all families, I am sure they have very very complex relationships and that each person is dealing with the various implications and emotions of the death in their own ways.

This is not something we have any right to judge.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:22 PM
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21. as far as "not shedding a tear" is concerned...
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 02:23 PM by nostamj
it is totally off-base to make a judgement on THAT.

when my beloved grandmother died I did not shed a tear in public. in fact, many were surprised but... there were others crying who needed support.

later, alone in the shower (of all places) I completely broke down.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:33 PM
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22. I think Merv is one of Reagan Library Foundation's trustees
Edited on Mon Jun-07-04 02:36 PM by cosmicdot
I used to have the list ... I had to write them to ask who were Trustees ... why so secretive? oh, that's their way ...

I did that several years back, but lost the file ...

very very small group ... a handful compared to Poppy's 50-some trustees

Giuliani was added as a Trustee in 2003

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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 12:22 PM
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29. and he is one of Nancy Reagan's oldest friends. eom
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capriccio Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:36 PM
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23. Stop the insanity!
Jesus, analyzing family behavior at a funeral (through your TV screen no less). Give us all a break. Patti Davis has had a nice little career as a Newsweek columnist for some time now. And if anybody here ever bothered to read a word she or brother Ron wrote or said, you'd find them to be pretty decent, intelligent people with fairly liberal views. Hope that doesn't leave too big a hole in the demon gallery.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 12:06 PM
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27. I've never cried at a funeral
I generally follow the same pattern when a relative or close family friend passes. When I hear the news, I cry for a while. Then I pull myself together, and I am pretty much done with crying the rest of the time.

I gave the eulogy at my grandfather's funeral. While we were planning it, my mother asked if I would cry and my father actually laughed, wondering if she had ever seen me cry in public before. It's just not something I do.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 12:08 PM
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28. it's not like it was an unexpected tragic death
he lived a long time. and they knew he would die. so i think it's more possible to be controlled in this situation then if it had happened while he was young and it was not expected.
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