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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:52 AM
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Divorce Should Be Criminalized
I say if homosexuals can't get married then heterosexuals can't get divorced.

That'll preserve the "sanctity" of marriage.

Why doesn't anyone use this as an argument? Makes sense to me.

If only for the quizzical looks you'd get on people's faces when they try to wrap their pea-sized brains around the argument.

:evilgrin:
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:56 AM
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1. Actually, some RR nuts DO argue that...
the others will indeed give you quizzical looks, wondering what one has to do with the other.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:57 AM
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2. My idea is that if someone commits adultery...
they have left their marriage and should have to leave ALL the marital assest to their marriage partner.
Wouldn't that kill those rich right wingers that move on to trophy wives.

Back to your point, I think that you are correct when those people get all high and mighty it is nice to throw their words and ideas back in their faces. It is so easy to talk big when it involves people that you feel are inferior but when it comes home to roost it is not so wonderful.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:58 AM
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3. I had a friend years ago who told her husband
if they ever got divorced, he would get all 6 kids! I like your idea!
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:15 AM
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6. Well Godess I am going to have to agree with you in part
Adultery causes more pain and suffering then most things that we currently have as illegal. I compare it to drunk driving, a innocent party is negatively affected by another irresponsibilty in a possibly life shattering way.

I think adultery should have a penalty, both legally and in divorce court.

We have criminal records because we don't want thieves working in a bank. So thus we should record cheaters because if they can't be trusted with those they 'love' then they certainly can not be trusted with goverment or industry secrets.



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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:42 AM
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11. Alienation of Affection
"I think adultery should have a penalty, both legally and in divorce court."

In North Carolina, one can actually sue for "alienation of affection." The party who gets sued though is not the cheating spouse, but the "enabling" lover. You stole my wife, you broke my heart, now pay up. People do win these kinds of suits too; sometimes for millions.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:47 AM
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13. That's a stupid way of doing things
You can't 'steal' a person away. The person cheating is responsible for the actions of their own body and mind. They want to cheat fine, but you leave your car keys and your stuff at home and start your knew life 'fresh' (as in with nothing).
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 10:36 AM
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16. Adulterers should also have to register as sex offenders
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 10:41 AM by rocknation
After all, only a pervert would go after someone who was married, right? And of course it should work the other way around--if a married person tries to hit on you can be charged with attempted adultery!

rocknation

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Ekaterina Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:31 AM
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20. Ummmm
a·dul·ter·y - Voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a partner other than the lawful spouse


It seems that only married persons can be "guilty" of adultery according to the definition of the word.
On the other hand, I find the opinions here to be mighty tight-right for DU.

Oh well.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:59 AM
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4. That's been tried before
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 08:59 AM by Loonman
Henry the VIII just started his own church instead of fighting over it.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:14 AM
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5. My argument that I use...
Against my religiously insane friends is that since they believe that the Bible is the inerant word of God, then divorce = adultery. Therefore, Ronald Reagan is a bigger adulterer than Clinton could ever hope to be since he divorced Spock's mom and married Nancy, the dragon lady, and they have essentially been living in sin since the 50s.

Of course, that's just a devil's advocate argument to make their synapses (both of them) start fizzling and popping. "Bible being used against me... Must choose it or greatness of Reagan... System shutdown approaching... Oil can... Oil can..."

TlalocW
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:33 AM
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9. NOT spock's mom
i agree with all of this, but RR 1st wife Jane Wyman was not spock's ma. his ma was from some other old TV family show. midgit in the head hasn't come up with it yet.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:43 AM
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12. Close, but no cigar
It was actress Jane Wyatt who played Spock's mother. Also known for her role as the Mom on Father Knows Best.
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:38 AM
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10. Even the frozen TinMan needed
a lube job to seek a "heart."

:loveya:
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:17 AM
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7. And while we're at it...
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 09:33 AM by InkAddict
bring back naming those guilty of "alienation of affection" so the complainant can name W&Co for wiping out family assets, causing mental stress and impotence, promoting hopelessness that that results in occasions of substance abuse (drugs/alcohol), and also naming religious fruitcake relatives who blame the victims of this crew's policies and refuse their compassionate aid to their grandchildren.

More...married in the church? Where are all those RR individuals who were charged w/upholding and "nurturing" the newly married/long-term married couple's marriage and the products of that marriage?

It seems that only NY recognizes conjugal responsibility in marriage and no mention whether the act's for kids, pleasure, or meeting emotional needs of the partner.

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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:21 AM
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8. Why make one at all?
You are on the side of social justice, screw them! Tell them this is what you want, this is what you feel is right, and if they don't like it they can kiss your ass.

If they tell you that you are going to hell, remind them that Jesus commanded them to leave such judgments to God and tell them that they have 'lost their way' and that you hope they find the 'right path'. If they say they know the right path, warn them against the sin of 'pride'.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 10:03 AM
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14. Are there numbers on gay "Divorces"
People either in civil unions or those who have publicly celebrated their union.

What is their rate of "Divorce" ?

Something tells me that it is probably better than the Hetro population.

Cheers
Drifter
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 10:16 AM
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15. I think people should jump off the a cliff T0GETHER
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 10:36 AM
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17. the sad thing is
a lot of right wing whack jobs on the religious reich already think it should be criminalized..
as for adultery...Its none of my business what other adults do in their marriage and it certainly should NOT be any business of the state what consenting adults do outside their marriage with other consenting adults.....
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zizzer Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 10:41 AM
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18. Divorce Should Be Criminalized
And arranged marrieage should come back into vouge!

And concubines and mistresses should be the norm!

As much as I hate divorce I can't endorse criminalizing it, even in jest.

I do think it should be much harder to get married and divorced though. I also think that in some cases it should be much easier, like in cases of abuse etc.

Zizzer, happily married to a woman who works in Family Law doing divorce and custody and etc...blechk...
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 10:58 AM
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19. i think some neo-cons already feel this way
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:32 AM
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21. Batterers would love your idea
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:28 PM
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22. I think divorce is still illegal in Chile... n/t


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