A vote for Nader is a vote for...

[LoZoccolo]

Poll question: A vote for Nader is a vote for...

[freetobegay]

1. Ain't that the truth!

[louis c]

2. Any Idiot

who doesn't realize this, after 2000, really has to be nuts.

[wyldwolf]

3. how about an "other" option - - - - - -

the coming of the anti-christ, Armageddon, the rapture, and the glorious return of Jaysus!

[Sparkly]

4. haHA

Love it, LoZoccolo. :hi:

[Deja Q]

5. Sigh. Trite, old, tired, lame, immature, childish, pointless, whinging,

utter nonsense.

Been there. Done that.

Nader won't win. Get over it.

Besides, look to what bushko* is planning to bend or break the rules to force another 'supreme' court decision.


(no disrespect intended, but how many Nader posts distract us from the more imperiling issues of Election 2004?)

[Beloved Citizen]

10. Sorry. But Bush wouldn't be in power now if it wasn't for...

...the selfishness, stupidity, egotism, and flat-out stupidity of Nader and his sanctimonious followers.

[AudreyT]

15. stupid anti-democratice bullshit

Nader did not cost Gore the election, Gore won but GAVE it to Bush.

[Nlighten1]

22. There are other reasons too you know...

To make Nader the Jesus Christ of the 2000 election completely ignores all the other fuckups of the Democrats.

Never forget this...THE DEMOCRATS TOLD GORE TO STOP IT AND CONCEDED TO BUSH.

There is plenty of blame to go around but to say that Nader is THE reason that Bush is in office is just pure stupidity.

I voted for Gore by the way. And I would vote for him again in an instant.

[louis c]

27. Nader Sucks

[Forkboy]

29. Dont look now

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=529914

Florida urges new purge of voter list.


When you're done wiping the froth and spittle from your mouth see if you can muster up the energy to care about something important.

[louis c]

32. Nader still Sucks

And by supporting, working for, and convincing all I can to Vote Kerry, I know, win or lose, I did everything humanly possible to defeat the very worst evil this country has ever experienced. How about you?

[Forkboy]

33. You're such a guy

Dont break an arm patting yourself on the back :eyes:

[Name removed]

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[louis c]

35. Dirty work

In Union politics there is a technique to divide and conquer your opponent by putting a stooge in a race to divide the vote. When there is no run off, like the general election in our country, the stooge usually can find some morons who can't count to throw their votes away, thus assuring the victory to the least worthy candidate. In this scenario, where do you think you fit?

[Nlighten1]

37. I voted for Gore.

And I am going to vote for Kerry. I just can't stand it when idiots blame Nader for Gore's "loss" in 2000. Only idiots believe this...

So where do you think you fit in?

[AudreyT]

6. stupid

Nader isnt your enemy. Saying Nader cost you the race is admitting that Bush won florida, sorry but I know better. In a democracy people are allowed to run for whatever political office they want. Why dont you say Larouche stole the presidency, or pat buchannan. Geez it makes as much sense.

[louis c]

7. Nader is as much the enemy as Bush

Nader absolutely put Bush in power. If Gore won Fla. by 50,000 votes, no one could have stolen it. And don't forget N.H. If you don't vote, or you vote for anyone but Kerry, you might as well be for Bush, because you harm our effort to defeat that scumbag more than they do. None of those assholes can convince us not to Vote Kerry, but your convoluted logic may convince another weak-minded individual that it's fun to fuck up an election.

[AudreyT]

11. dude whatever

I vote for who I want to vote for, thats democracy. Nader didn't cost Gore any votes, Gore being a pussy about the recount cost Gore the election.

[Aidoneus]

25. forget it

leaving this part:--
These "Two Minutes' Hate" sessions are appalling.

[LoZoccolo]

28. ...JFK...JFK...

...JFK...JFK...

[Pastiche423]

34. JFK is dead

He has been for over thirty years.

[Aidoneus]

39. HE IS?!

so that's why he's not returning my calls. I was feeling a bit of rejection, but now that I know..

Now, LoZ, what are you talking about? "JFK...JFK..." means what, exactly?

[LoZoccolo]

40. It's a reference to the "two minutes hate".

If you've ever read 1984, it's probably within the first 30 pages or so that people are mumbling "...bb...bb...".

John Forbes Kerry's initials are JFK.

[Aidoneus]

41. I know the reference

Did you mean it ironically? I would say that shoe fits either way.

[LoZoccolo]

43. You know how some people are about shock jocks...

...where they're like so into them and have pictures of them all over their apartment and act like they are totally like their "alpha male" and you hear them call up their show asking for money cuz they're in trouble and they're their whole life and all that? I am so like that about John Kerry. No I'm not.

[Oddman]

8. Best poll I've seen on here!

Good job!

[messiah]

9. Nice fear

[KG]

12. lame-o

[LoZoccolo]

13. That's why I say "hey man wrong fist."

The Nationalist Party uses the right fist as a symbol.

[KG]

16. which means what, exactly?

[LoZoccolo]

17. It means...

...try the "flip" feature.

[KG]

18. nope, it's the correct fist,

your posts make no sense, but thanks for playing.

[LoZoccolo]

20. Here's a button with your picture the right (left) way.

http://www.volume1books.com/pinsindex.html

[KG]

23. and this is different from my av., how?

they both look like a left fist to me.

[LoZoccolo]

24. Wait dude did you change it?

I think you changed it.

Did you?

[Aidoneus]

26. he hasn't changed it in months

Nice attention to detail, Kerry should be proud to have you as an enforcer.

:eyes:

[bicentennial_baby]

30. Snarf

:P

[LoZoccolo]

47. Hey wait you didn't.

My fault. Hahahaha.

[Vickers]

14. Hahaha! Great panty-bunching poll, LoZoccolo!

:thumbsup:

[Forkboy]

19. We dont this flamebait

I'm having enough fun as it is shitting on Reagan's memory and pissing you off :P

[CalebHayes]

21. Yeah BABY!!

[Pastiche423]

36. Lots of fear from Kerry suppporters

I wonder why that is.

[tom_paine]

44. If YOU don't fear a 2nd Bush Term, then you are a fool.

Sorry. Don't blame the messenger for the message, my 1933 German Communist friend (no, I don't think you are a Communist, but merely replicating the same mistakes of the German Communists in the face of Hitler).

I hope they at least drag your ass off to the Gulags for a little Abu Ghrahib before me.

You deserve the extra time at the end of Lynndie's leash as punishemnet for being extra shortsighted.

My apologies if I offend. Remember, a vote for Von Papen is a vote for Hitler!

:imwithstupid:

[LoZoccolo]

45. Hey! The 1933 strategy worked!

There was a German communist state that was eventually formed, right?

Tell the truth now!

[tom_paine]

46. You know, you got a point there!

:evilgrin:

St. Ralphie's Followers are SOOO farthinking.

Maybe they'll get their Green State built on the smouldering ashes of Imperial Amerika, too.

hooray.

[tom_paine]

38. Oh my yes, it's so very very true!

I'm sorry. It is. I don't like it any more than you and I don't like having to be pissed at people for exercising their democratic (small d) prerogative.

But these are NOT ordinary times. They are the most EXTRAORDINARY TIMES any of us will ever see and that which NONE of us ever wanted to see. Because of that crazy things are happening and the weirdest ofunexpected circumstances.

But there you have it. I don't like it any more than you do.

I hope I have explained adequately or shed some light on the Democratic Side here.

There is such a misunderstanding betwen the Dems and Greens when we are natural allies.

This is not how things ought to be but the system is so stressed now that only the most rapid nonviolent restoration of the system of checks and balances can hope to save us.

Please try and understand, Greens.

Please vote for Kerry.

[DaveSZ]

42. A vote for Nader is a vote for:

-An American caste system made of serfs and overlords

-A Scalia SC

-"Preemptive" war with North Korea and Iran

-The loss of respect and friends in the world that America once had

-A totalitarian Christian Fundamentalist theocracy

[Solidarity]

49. And What Was A Vote For Buchanan?

A Vote For Buchanan Was A Vote For Gore. True or False?

[LoZoccolo]

54. False.

Buchanan voters have different interests than Gore voters.

[UrbScotty]

48. Dean was right, as are 100% of the voters in this poll (nt)

[CWebster]

50. Nader.

If democrats want the votes which would go to Nader they can appeal on the issues which attract Nader voters.

[Solidarity]

52. That's True

But that's not being done, is it?

It appears that the DLC is either taking the votes of liberals and progressives for granted and/or is prepared to write off those votes. They have done a pretty good job in marginalizing Kucinich and other progressives in the Democratic Party.
For the DLC it's Anybody But Kucinich or Nader!

No demands are being made on John Kerry by progressives. As one DU'er explained, no matter what Kerry says and does they will vote for him. So John Kerry is free to move or stay to the right (called the center) on any issue.

[LoZoccolo]

55. Yes. Then we can lose a ton of voters...

...because most people don't understand Nader's issues so the right-wing can spread any number of unmitigated rumors about his initiatives because there's this 2% of the population that votes based on them but won't do enough work to spread their ideas wide enough so that almost all Democrats will support them.

Sounds like a plan. :thumbsup:

[Snivi Yllom]

51. Not Kerry

but it wasn't an option, funny how it seems to be the reality of the situation.

[Radical Activist]

53. what the Democratic Party stood for before Reagan...

made us afraid to be liberals. He changed the Democratic party as much as he changed the Republican Party. Remember, the DLC started in response to Ronnie.