Did Faux report this poll?

[John_H]

FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll.

"Considering how President Bush has performed so far, do you think he deserves to be reelected or would the country probably be better off with someone else as president?"

Deserves
Reelection Someone
Else Depends
(vol.) Not
Sure
% % % %

8/01 36 42 13 9

Unbelievable!

[diplomats]

1. That poll is from August 2001

not August 2003.

[Trajan]

2. No it isnt ....

This was posted a few days ago ...

THAT poll is from August 1st, 2003 .... 8/01 = August 1st ....

This had already been hashed out ....

[diplomats]

3. Yes it is

8/01 means August 2001, not Aug. 1. See

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm

and scroll down to the Fox numbers. They compare 7/03 (July 2003) to 8/01 (August 2001). His most recent reelect is 47-40, NOT 36-42.

[Trajan]

6. My extreme apologies .....

I was wrong ..... I misread it too ....

I recalled Brotherjohns post from a few days ago, and I was wrong there as well ....

Chuckles .... imagine it: ... ME ? ... wrong ? ....

HAHA ....

yep ....

[Brotherjohn]

7. Imagine what it felt like to be the original poster.

I get so excited looking at Shrub's poll numbers that sometimes I get carried away.

But even with the couple of recent polls showing his numbers tick up a point or two (well w/in the MOE), his approval rating has been in one big, fat, state of very steady decline throughout his presidency. Oh sure, he received a huge bump after 9-11, but that could only be attributed to national unity, since they went way up before he was even given the chance to do anything in response. The smaller bump for Iraq (also expected during a war) is already gone.

But for the brief few weeks while his numbers climbed immediately post 9-11 and post-Iraq invasion, Bush's approval has been in steady decline. And I do not think the people will buy another invasion.

His re-elect numbers will be below 40 soon enough. And I still think that the first poll charting him below 50% will be around 8/20. I've been saying that for weeks, and I still stick by it, even though it's only a week away. That might be a poll released AFTER 8/20, but taken no later than 8/20. I base this on overall polling as depicted on the Pollkatz site. The trend is so consistent, it's scary.

[Brotherjohn]

4. Yes, it is (unfortunately).

This was already hashed out, largely in response to my post a few days back. The conclusion was that the poll was from 2001, that in fact I was wrong in my initial post. I excitedly thought the poll was from this year (August 1st, 2003). I got carried away by the 36%, too. (someone else repeated my mistake a day or so later; and again now)

If you look at the Pollingreport.com site (http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm, which is where this comes from), note that at the top it says "Polls listed chronologically". That's going backwards in time, with the most recent polls first. This is the way pollingreport always posts their poll data. Looking at any of their polls verifies this.

Also, the Fox poll of concern says at the top it is from July 29-30, 2003. That's the 7/03. The number below is August 2002 (8/01), the last time the Bush vs. unnamed Dem poll was conducted by Fox.

Also note that on pollingreport's web page, whenever only two numbers are listed (as in 7/03, or 8/01), it is month/year, NOT month/day. It would make no sense to put just month/day when comparing numbers going back the last 2-3 years, as they do. Whenever an actual date is included, all three numbers are listed (8/5-8/03, 5/1-2/03, etc.) Looking at polls where all three numbers are listed also allows you to clearly see the backwards chronological nature by which pollingreport posts the data.

Lastly, look at a poll where data is listed both by month/year and by month/date/year, and you can clearly see that when two numbers are used, it is referring to month/year, NOT month/day.

Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates. July 24-25, 2003. (I've put the dates only below)

7/24-25/03
7/10-11/03
5/1-2/03
4/10-11/03
11/02

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the poll is from August 2001.

[BushHasGotToGo]

5. Yes it is

8/01 means in 2001.