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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:03 AM
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enough, already about RR. how many have read R. Clarke's book?
too bad he made that "pledge" before the commission

he DEFINITELY should be Kerry's head of Homeland Security

that book is the most fascinating, all-encompassing tale of the inner workings of the highest levels of government I've ever read

a page-turner to boot

he was the connective tissue for national security in all four of the admins in which he served.

they relied on him in so many different areas, and he was at the heart of so many crucial events, it almost became a parody.

and you KNOW why he quit....he couldn't stand the misapplication of resources, the utter politicization of EVERYthing those fools did, AND the complete incompetence

just sickening to think of all that's happened to our country, both by omission AND commission, since this bunch of lying thieves stole our nation

I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!

forget Reagan....Eyes back on the prize!

and I mean that!

Read Clarke's book, if you haven't

seminal stuff
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:05 AM
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1. I read it - now
I will read Brock's new book and Dean's new book. I bought them both.
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EdGy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:05 AM
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2. I just bought it
and it's on the top of my to-read pile!
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Kong Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:06 AM
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3. The Day It Came Out
It was a suprisingly well written book. I recommend it to everyone, try to get it in befor President Clinton's book is released because that one is going to take some time.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:12 AM
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8. can you think of anyone else anywhere NEAR as qualified
to take over Ridge's job come January?

course he was the first one to do it, under Clinton's initial setup

and they tried to smear Clarke by saying he was POd about not getting the job under dumbo....that he lobbied for it

maybe he did, but he SHOULD have been the one to have gotten it

he was infinitely better prepared than any of those ideological buffoons that were "in charge" of protecting us

protecting us by concentrating on Star Wars

right, Condi?

why won't you release the text of your big national security speech you were sposed to give on 911?

huh?

how lucky can they GET?
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:08 AM
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4. Read the whole book on a Sunday afternoon...
right after it came out... and yes, it is an incredibly well-written book. Not a dry word in it.

Dean's book too... another page-turner.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:09 AM
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5. Nah, I'm reading The DaVinci Code
Just kidding...read it when it came out, loaned it to a friend and haven't seen it since. And I want to reread it! It's great...too bad it's a true story.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:10 AM
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6. I did and I agree...
Edited on Thu Jun-10-04 08:11 AM by Richardo
Once you get past the first chapter (which I found a rather sensationalistic recounting of 9/11) he lays out and constrasts the policies of each of the administrations, and how the action or inaction of each directly led to the situation we find ourselves in today.

I especially liked his rather fond descriptions of Clinton. The scene that stuck with me the most (even though I cannot remember the subject matter right now) is the one where Clinton was making prepared remarks in front of a group and then looked over and winked at Clarke, and Clarke knew instantly that that meant Bill was going to wing it. And he went off, in-depth and knowledgably, on the subject that he and Clarke discussed in the car on the way to the event.

Contrast that to the guy who can't even read a cue card.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:11 AM
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7. read it. Looking for his Vanity Fair interview
He is a hero and it was my man Wes who nudged him to go public.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:17 AM
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9. I'm reading Clark's book now, but I do have one RR question...
...Ronald Reagan joined the army during WWII, but was never put into active front-line duty anywhere overseas because he had bad eye-sight. Yet, in a rare change, Reagan read from a TelePrompter, instead of note cards, when acknowledging his nomination. He was 69 years old at the time. That seems odd to me that his eye-sight would improve as he became older.


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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:22 AM
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10. could be his farsighted vision (sic?) got a little better as he aged
mine has, a bit

dunno what else it could be

earphones? they say there was a messup with one later on, during a press conference, and he started speaking stage directions, or something like that......can't remember exactly

or maybe he was reading cue cards out of order

whatever

PSD setting in on me
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:33 AM
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13. RR was a well known draft-dodger
so hated by veterans like my father that it turned him into a Democrat.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:24 AM
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11. and wasn't it swell the way the pentagon undercut him
telling him it was too risky to go in and snatch some guy, then telling the special force troops that Clinton was too wussy to OK it?

and that Clinton OK'd EVERY SINGLE snatch (heh) that they offered up

fricking pugs with their frickin politics to the death

thanks, scum
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:27 AM
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12. "Clinton OK'd EVERY SINGLE snatch (heh) "
Dude, you post at least one thing every day that makes me snort coffee all over the place.

:toast:
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 08:35 AM
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14. why, thank you, dude!
make my day!

get it?
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