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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:21 PM
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Poll question: If you lived in California (or if you do) who would you vote in the recall
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 01:36 PM by camcb
I am changing this. If the recall went through, which candidate would you vote for?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:23 PM
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1. I'm not sure how to answer
I would vote against the recall, but then I would probably vote for Arianna Huffington, if it were held today.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:24 PM
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4. Check Gray Davis
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 01:25 PM by VermontDem2004
if you select anyone other then Gray Davis, that is voting to recall Gray Davis.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:47 PM
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16. GRAY DAVIS IS NOT ON THE BALLOT..
DO NOT WRITE HIS NAME IN..

VOTING NO..IS.. VOTING FOR DAVIS
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:23 PM
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2. Flawed premise
Voting for the other candidates basically means your voting 'Yes' on the recall

Even if we oppose the recall, and we should, we absolutely have to have a safety valve in case it passes. That's why Bustamante's running. I'd vote a big fat NO on the Repukkke recall, then vote Bustamante on the second part of the ballot.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:26 PM
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5. From what I see from this poll
It looks like selecting any other candidate is basically a yes vote for the recall, a vote for Gray Davis is a no vote for the recall.
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 02:09 PM
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19. You're right
As long as you vote NO on the recall, I don't care who you vote for.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:33 PM
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27. It matters who you vote yes for
This is so frustrating.

It does matter who you vote for. The likelihood of getting 51% of Californians to vote no on the recall is slim. That's why uniting behind one candidate as the replacement is so important. If liberals split their vote between Bustamante, Huffington and Camejo; Arnold's chance of winning is increased.

Not to mention that if you respect democracy and respect that the Democratic candidate won in November; it is only ethical to replace Davis with the Democratic contender supported by the party.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:24 PM
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3. I would vote two ways NO on RECALL and YES on CRUZ
eom. I'm not taking any chances.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:31 PM
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9. If you vote No on recall you cant vote for another candidate.
I beleive that is how it works.
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judy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:35 PM
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10. Hmmm...I believe the opposite.
I think you can vote NO on recall, (I will), and still pick another candidate in case the recall happens.
I saw that one of Cruz's slogans was:
NO on recall, YES on Bustamante.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:46 PM
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14. The confusion is common, I'm afraid.
And it isn't helping an already bad and dismal situation.

People are saying the next governor could have only 20% of the vote and I hope it's that high. I fear people will stay away in droves wich will suit the puppetmasters just fine.

http://www.prospect.org/webfeatures/2003/08/blumenthal-m-08-13.html
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nbsmom Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:55 PM
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31. Correct -- NO on recall, YES on Bustamante
That's the way it's set up. If 51% or more vote to recall Davis, Bustamante needs a plurality of the votes.

Camejo already almost threw the election to Simon last November -- we don't need a repeat to end up with Ahnuld.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:43 PM
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13. Yes you CAN!!!! You can still vote for a replacement!
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:24 PM
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25. INCORRECT
Once again...you can vote on BOTH PARTS of the Recall (Recall AND replacemnt candidate) It is NOT dependent on whether you vote NO or YES on Recall.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:28 PM
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6. Couldn't answer poll
because you can vote against the recall, but for a candidate, as if it were a second choice. In that case, I would vote NO on the recall and for Bustamante.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:31 PM
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Vote for Gray Davis
I could understand why the person did it, it would make a flawed poll to have a Yes-No option on the poll, then list the candidates. I understood it perfectly. I know if the recall failed, you could vote for the other candidates. But if you vote to recall Gray Davis, you are doing it because you would want to vote for someone who you think is better.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:31 PM
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7. Vote No on Recall, Vote for Cuz B.
Which I expressed above with a vote for Cuz.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:31 PM
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8. NO on Recall, YES on Bustamante ..........n/t
TYY
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:40 PM
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11. Huffington...
...but only if Camejo doesn't run or has a smaller chance of winning.
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JustJoe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:40 PM
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12. I voted for Gray on first poll but when you changed the poll
it wdnt let me vote for Cruz. The poll is
going to be off cuz Gray already had 30 something
voters who will be disenfranchised in the second
poll. I will take this matter to the Supreme Court.
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:37 PM
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29. yeah me too ...
where is Jesse Jackson anyway? :evilgrin:

:dem:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:47 PM
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15. I really wish Arianna had a chance, because she would have
NAMED NAMES... TAKEN NAMES...AND GOTTEN EVEN..

If Bustamante had not joined the race, I think Arianna would have had a real chance.. I said I would vote for Larry Flynt and I would have IF Arainna & Cruz had not gotten in..

The most important part is part ONE...NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO


and of course, now we MUST vote Bustamante on part 2..just i case Ahhhnold gets the salivating celeb worshippers vote...you know..the ones who think they are voting in some stupid movie star magazine or American Idol poll :(
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:49 PM
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17. I am really ignorant
but what is good about Bustamante? I don't know who he is.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 01:54 PM
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18. Absolutely NO on the idiot recall, and a vote for Cruz, just in case...
This RW-financed coup-attempt should have us howling in the streets. Think of what's been done to the states with the most electoral votes:

Texas = Bush
Florida = Bush
New York = 9/11
California = Coup

Gray Davis isn't my kind of Democrat (lot progressive enough by a long shot), but he was fairly elected in a *legitimate* election.

California is in fiscal trouble due to multiple reasons, not the least of which is the lousy Bush economy. Most of the crap that hit the fan in California is NOT Davis's fault. He does not deserve this. Californians do not deserve this.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 02:18 PM
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20. No on Recall. Yes on Bustamante
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 02:20 PM
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21. Recall: NO Huffington: SI
Just because if this recall crap goes through, wouldn't it be a beautiful backfire to see things shift LEFT. rest assured they won't try and pull this crap again.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 02:44 PM
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22. Sadly, you left out question one: the recall vote
I am afraid some voters will superficially do the same. "No" on recall is the most important statement a Democrats can make (and a green who cares about Democracy too).
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:01 PM
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23. kick
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FranMonet Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:16 PM
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24. I had to vote for Gary Coleman
But in the real election I will vote Bustamante.B-)
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:25 PM
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26. Bustamante, with a caveat
I will vote for the candidate most likely to deny any Republican the governor's office. If the election were held today, I wopuld vote for Bustamante. My vote is so recorded above.

However, if on Ocotber 7, another candidate -- Camejo, Arianna, Georgy or whoever -- is in a better position than Bustamante, I will vote for that candidate.

Take the Jack Rabbit Recall Pledge: I solemny pledge to vote NO on the recall of Governor Davis and vote for the replacement candidate most likely to deny any Republican the governor's office on October 7.


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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 09:33 PM
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32. I'll take that pledge
And I do believe it will be Bustamante but I have a question that I have not been able to find an answer for.

If/when Gray Davis prevails in this recall thing, and the vote tally for the 130+ people is a moot subject, will results be made public? I personally think of the second part of the ballot as being provisional on the first half passing, and wonder if it shouldn't be buried like it never even existed. Just curious, and thinking about 2006 gubernatorial election ramifications.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:36 PM
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28. Georgy Russell
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:46 PM
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30. It depends how the polls look when Oct 7 rolls around. If Arnold is
hopelessly ahead, one has a "free" (but meaningless) vote for a candidate that one really likes - for me, this could be Arianna, or Camejo, or a Socialist. (This would be similar to voting for Nader in 2000 in a state that either Gore or Bush had obviously locked up.)

But if it looks close between Arnold and Bustamente, I'll probably vote for Cruz.
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