Faux says Cheney to head CIA - icky Rudy to be VP

[donsu]

http://www.buzzflash.com/mailbag/04/06/mai04160.html


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Subject: Fox speculates: Cheney > CIA; Rudy > Veep

http://www.newsdissector.org/weblog/index.cfm

Fox News this morning reported uncritically on speculation that Dick Cheney may be replaced on the Republican ticket by "America's Mayor" Rudy Giuliani, a move they saw as perfect as an attention getting device in the upcoming speculation. Their related rumor is that Cheney will go to the CIA to replace George Tenet.

Jackie N.
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Poppy and Cheney running the CIA - "Good Gads" as Amelia would say.

[Catfight]

1. it will be hard to run the CIA from prison.

[MidwestTransplant]

26. If Cheney goes to the CIA, I am sure there will be a mass exodous of

employees.

[lancdem]

2. It won't save Bush

[mmonk]

3. Cheney/CIA?

When's the next flight out of here?

[Timefortruth]

14. It makes my blood run cold.

Can't wait for the confirmation hearing.

[hlthe2b]

29. ditto..... that absolutely chills the soul...

[maxsolomon]

38. you like being disappointed?

kennedy will get red-faced, then he'd be confirmed. that's about it.

[tom_paine]

50. Yep. If Cheney heads CIA we will see a massive increase in domestic

murder, Nazi-style, of Political Enemies.

The Final Cloak will begin to fall, although that will happen no matter what if Bunnypants* retains the power he seized.

[Straight Shooter]

4. I guess all those unprecedented visits to the CIA were job interviews

"America's mayor"?

I don't think our town would want a mayor with his lying, cheating ways. Much much much worse than Clinton ever was. Hunh-unh. No way.

[calimary]

5. Oh yeah. Like the CIA will have him.

In that case, I'd expect, any moves within the CIA to hang these people, as speculated by Mike Ruppert in From the Wilderness, would only put their feet down harder on the gas pedal.

The CIA will NOT accept that dick as their chief. He's instrumental in their biggest headaches.

Let the games begin.

[RafterMan]

19. The CIA *will* have him.

For lunch.

[leyton]

6. Ugh. With that, all we can hope for is that

Guiliani would repel the social conservatives.

Please, God, do not change the Republican ticket.

[Canuckistanian]

11. Swarzenegger repelled the social conservatives, too

Didn't do anything to prevent his accession to the throne.
Bushco gets what Bushco wants.

[leyton]

39. Yes, but he was at the top of his ticket and was seen as a moderate.

People are unhappy with Bush and Cheney and I would hope that moderates leaning Democratic would not be swayed by the addition of Guiliani to the ticket.

[spanone]

7. Isn't Giuliani a Democrat

Giuliani would fit in perfectly. Since 911 he' been raking in the money. He & half the brass in the police dept of NY started a consulting firm on terrorism. Making fortunes. This would put him in the catbird seat.

[calimary]

9. Problem is, he's pro-choice. AND he's got all that divorce baggage

in his closet.

It'd split the conservatives or discourage some of them from voting. It would make for a VERY sleepless night before the election for many of them.

[Timefortruth]

18. He'll see the light on choice.

The divorce was before 9/11 so who cares if he brought his girlfriend to the house where his wife and children lived? A guy has to do what a guy has to do.

[MidwestTransplant]

28. He is also...gasp....friendly to gays

[bushwakker]

43. Shacked up in Gracie Mansion with galpal

pro-choice and he doesn't believe gays should be burned at the stake. 3 strikes and he's out as Veep.

[sleepyhead]

57. Plus there are pictures of him in drag

at - oh, I forget - some kind of press shindig where they put on a show. That probably won't go over to well with conservative America.

[absolutezero]

48. he's a puke

socially liberal puke (you have to be to be mayor of NYC) but he still likes tax cuts and super strict law enforcement (how many times did someone get needlessly hurt by the police in NYC while he was mayor?)

[LittleApple81]

8. Your heading is wrong: even if Rudi is a "candidate for VP" with

Bush, he won't be VP until ELECTED by the people...which is still in question, isn't it?

[kentuck]

10. Gotta hide all those secrets....

Best place to do that is the CIA...

[dwilson]

12. I don't think Cheney will be the V.P. pick either.

They're waiting until after Kerry announces his V.P. choice before they lower the bomb.

I don't think Cheney will head CIA though. He'll be off to the side in an unelected capacity where he can cause the most damage unseen.

[rustydog]

17. Head of the CIA is an unelected position!

[underpants]

13. I hope Killme, Double D , and Douchebag had a full conversation about it

I LOVE when these insightful and knowledgeable people discussing important matters.

[rustydog]

15. Rudy, the man who cheated on his wife (family values)

had a nasty public divorce and then supposedly performed so fantastically after 9-11 and even hinted that he shouldn't step down as mayor?
THAT Rudy?
Bring it on!
The first question the opposition should ask is: So, are you and George still the FAMILY VALUES sanctity of marriage party?

If so, why did you cheat on your wife and divorce her?

Why wasn't your EMS department better equipped to respond to 9-11?
It has been alleged that if they had the equipment they needed, fewer personnel would have lost their lives.

So, tell us again, you are against Gay marriage because it is an insult to the sanctity of marriage, right?

[Justice]

58. He Didn't Just Cheat on His Wife

he lived with his girlfriend in the mansion while his wife and children lived there too.

[Norquist Nemesis]

16. BACKFIRE!

Aside from being pro-choice, the American people are not stupid and will see through the subliminal message of someone held in high esteem for his handling of 9/11 joining with Bush. If they did this, they might as well plan the good-bye festivities.

[No2W2004]

20. A couple of reasons why this would happen

1) IF there is something happening at CIA, Cheney would be the one to stop all the leaks and get rid of the non-shrubco people

2)

I AM RUDY GULLIANI....YOU MUST FORGVE SHRUB.....I AM RUDY GULLIANI...YOU MUST FORGIVE SHRUB...

[Kid_A]

24. HA! I remember that episode.

That was classic...

[gratuitous]

21. Almost too stupid for words

But since Faux is speculating on it, a certain grim doubt creeps in.

I almost don't believe it for a second. Can these guys be THAT stupid? Or do they think we are that stupid?

[NewJeffCT]

31. why is it stupid?

Powell, the lone moderate in the current WH, has almost no influence now. His sole purpose was the use his credibility to brief the UN about Iraq's WMD.

If Powell resigns post-election, as many have speculated, Rudy would be the new ignored moderate face on the White House. They trot him out to give speeches on a tough issue or two where Rudy would have more credibility (no, cutting all these funds for Police or the Military won't screw our veterans...)

I think it spells BIG BIG Trouble.

[gratuitous]

35. Because this is NOT the face Republicans want on their ticket

And I would make it my personal mission in life to see this photo disseminated as far and wide as possible.

[NewJeffCT]

44. disagree

The RepubliCONs will do what they can to keep power. The Religious Right sees this as a long term struggle and would accept Rudy over a Kerry Administration any day of the week. While some may stay home or vote for Roy Moore, if he runs, it will be counterbalanced by getting back votes from the Log Cabin Republicans and moderates.

If that is the woman Rudy had an affair with (god, is she ugly!), most won't care... Clinton's highest approval ratings were during the impeachment.

[gratuitous]

46. No, that's not the woman Rudy had an affair with

It's Rudy!

I'll stand by my previous post.

[0007]

55. Lot of fucking flap over fucking nothing from a no where

entertainment network that likes to think they're a news source.

Rudy a VP? No way!! Cheney heads the CIA? If this ever did happen FAUX could have me for immoral purposes.

[comsymp]

32. That's the thing

Hard to imagine they'd be "speculating" on something like that without a green light from Rove... maybe a trial balloon?

[Career Prole]

22. Cheney is well-suited for CIA chief

He's the most cloak-and-daggerish secret-keepin' sonuvabitch to ever hit D.C.

[AlCzervik]

23. He'd be worse than J. Edgar

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

25. J Edgar ran the FBI

not the CIA

[Neecy]

27. hmmmm

I think his Senate confirmation hearing would unearth too much skullduggery for them to try it...and it's not a sure bet that the Senate WOULD confirm him.

Too controversial for Bunnypants to pull in an election year.

[never cry wolf]

33. I was thinking along the same lines

I seriously doubt he would achieve confirmation, he has made many enemies, even in his own party.

[Neecy]

42. yep

Although I'd love to see St. Rudy on the ticket self-destructing.

People don't remember what he was like before he was annointed "America's Mayor". He was rude, peevish and belligerent to the New York press. Imagine how he'd spin out of control under the pressure of being on the ticket? Just one good 'fuck-you'-ish sound bite and the Republicans will be eating dirt until November.

[AntiCoup2K4]

30. If Rudy takes a job with this Fraudministration...

...we can only assume that he was in on it. :grr:

And please don't ask "in on what?"

[leftynyc]

34. I just can't see this happening

I remember reading that Bush senior was said to have lost because many conservatives stayed home. Are they really going to show up for a VP candidate who is

1. Pro-choice right down to late term
2. Gay-friendly (marched in the gay pride parade and moved into a gay couple's apartment when he moved out of Gracie mansion

3. Very pro gun control

And I can't imagine they would subject Cheney to a confirmation hearing.

[Dulcinea]

54. Not gonna happen.

Not only for all the reasons you stated, but because Rudy Giuliani has much too big of an ego to ever play second fiddle to Boy George. Or anyone else, for that matter. Plus, Rudy'd get all the attention. The Dim Son could never handle that.

[TexasSissy]

36. For real?

I mean, really for real?

I think this would be good for the Dems.

[Stuckinthebush]

37. Not a big Rudy fan, but he isn't stupid

He would never take this deal because he has his eyes on the prize down the line. Hitching his wagon to this supernova is a foolish idea and Rudy knows it.

[leyton]

40. Could Kerry fire Cheney?

If Kerry became President anyway, and Cheney had been made CIA director anyway, could Kerry simply fire him, saying, this man is corrupt?

[jmowreader]

49. Yes, easily. The DCI serves at the pleasure of the president

Example: George the Smarter was installed as DCI by President Ford. His mission was to reform the post-Nixon CIA.

One of President Carter's first acts was to fire George the Smarter for failing to reform the CIA.

Which is what makes the "George Bush Center for Intelligence" so fucking hilarious: they named CIA Headquarters after someone who was relieved for cause.

My first act as president will be to rename CIA Headquarters after someone who didn't get fired from his position. Perhaps Sidney Souers, the first DCI.

[smada]

41. Pet peeve time

Let's be accurate. It helps our credibility.

Fox did not report that Cheney is going to run the CIA, according to this snippet, in contradiction to the headline.

They reported on rumors to that effect.

[gasperc]

45. he's not healthy enough to be a do nothing VP

yet he can run the fucking CIA?

[DeepModem Mom]

47. Cause for Bush's manic good mood yesterday?

Putting Cheney in charge of the CIA doesn't seem that far-fetched if the Bushies are, as rumored, in some kind of war with the CIA. And re. Rudy, when has any Republican's personal life stood in the way of political advancement?

[chookie]

51. Agreed

One of the hallmarks of authoritarians is their utter hypocrisy. If the Groping Gangbanger Schwarzenegger can be anointed by the far right establishment to successfully complete their coup in CA, the adulterous Giuliani is a shoo-in for VP.

Given that most of His Chimperial Highnesses troubles --i.e. getting "caught" as the criminal he always has been -- seem to be emanating from the CIA, it would be a brilliant move to install Darth Cheney there to *try* to squash it. Who knows -- many they think they can pull off in the intelligence community what they were able to accomplish in the Pentagon, namely the dismissal of critical experienced career professionals who protest one's policies and the installation of incompetent Yes Men.

Sure, they may try this. They're capable ot anything to hold onto and magnify their terrifying power.

[hadrons]

52. wait until the Freeper see him in drag

[gratuitous]

56. See also post 35

Not an image that will play well with "the base."

[ElementaryPenguin]

53. I would more trust Saddam Hussein to head the CIA then The DICK!

:puke:
:puke:
:puke:

[AgadorSparticus]

59. i hope they do change. it is a sign of weakness and people can smell

fear and bullshit a mile away. they are losing miserably and they know it. it is like admitting that they have a losing team. we are right all along.