Want to help me interview Sibel Edmonds?

[WilliamPitt]

I just had the privilege of speaking to her on the phone. She's in DC with Daniel Ellsberg. Some good news: The hearing scheduled for Monday to decide if she should be 'gagged' in the interest of national security has been indefinitely postponed.

Anyway, I am going to arrange with her on Monday a date to do an interview. I want to turn over every stone on this one, and she can really help us all get to the heart of things.

So, if you have any questions, post them here and I will do my best to work them in.

[papau]

1. I thought she needed Court OK to discuss or disclose the doc's she gave

her bosses. So putting off the hearing scheduled for Monday via an "indefinitely postponed" would seem to be a loss for the side of truth...

Maybe you could scan a few items while she is making tea during the interview - she may not discuss, but I doubt she is under an obligation to stop evil truth seekers like yourself!

:-)

[Just Me]

9. I'm confused about the "indefinitely postponed" thing, too.

Can she explain why the government wants to "gag" her?

[Just Me]

38. BTW. Hey, Will,...you're gonna do so great!!! Just, please, relay *LOL*!

eom

[sadiesworld]

10. I'm with papau on the purpose of Monday's hearing.

I thought there was the possibility that she would be "ungagged". You mean they might gag her further???

There's a tasteless joke here somewhere. :7

[NewJeffCT]

12. I'm confused, too

But, I agree on the tasteless joke, especially with the pic of her I have seen making her look quite attractive.

[ewagner]

2. Here's something that I can't get a handle on

When Sibel found the untranslated and mistranslated documents, she reported this to her supervisor. (If my memory is correct).

How long did the supervisor take to get back to her. Did he/she confirm Sibel's findings? Did the Supervisor "bump" the information up the ladder? At what point, if any, did Ashcroft personally get involved?

I think it's important to know this because it establishes when and where the cover-up began.

I sometimes have a habit of getting into too much detail. If you think that's the case here, feel free to disregard it.

Thanks for the opportunity though.

[derby378]

3. Been hearing a tad about some 9-11/drug trade connection

You could ask her if it's BS or if there really is something to it...that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

Aside from the obvious question of "Why are Bush and Cheney wetting themselves because of you?"

[boobooday]

7. I heard her mention the drug connection too

And the connection between "legitimate" and "semi-legitimate" organizations.

She knows something about this -- probably the whole Bohemian Grove crowd is wetting themselves about now. They must hate Bush -- he is so incompetent he is going to end up exposing them all.

And it's what they get.

[Tyler Durden]

4. I can't improve on your stuff Will.

I'm sure you'll get it right. Maybe PBS News might be interested in having it on tape?

[HereSince1628]

5. "Sibel, why is it important for Americans to believe you?"

or words to that effect... the "unwashed" need to get a sense of her credibility and why it shouldn't be questioned.

[molly]

This is big news

is Daniel Ellsberg employing her - helping how? My only contribution is to get as much as you can before and if she is gagged.

[anarchy1999]

31. Ellsberg is standing by her side. Not employing her, giving her support

for coming out with what she knows. This is big or he would not be there by her side.

And as always, Will, you know what to ask, and there are some great ideas here in this thread. Nothing I can add to.

[boobooday]

6. Will, you always know what to do

But I heard her being interviewed by Amy Goodman the other day, and it was so frustrating that she was "gagged" and couldn't say much!

She is a brave lady, and I hope that we can hear EVERYTHING she has to say eventually!

Good luck with the interview -- I'm looking forward to reading it!

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[sadiesworld]

8. Wasn't she working on whistleblower protection status with

(I believe) the house or senate judiciary committee? Is that still possible? More publicity would help with that angle, right?

BTW, is she going to appear on 60 minutes Sunday? Anyone?

[maggrwaggr]

11. take photos. Post them.

:)

[never cry wolf]

13. Awesome!

Just want to give you some congrats ans I truly hope it happens!

About all I could think of for you to inquire about would be how accurate she felt the ifno she saw regarding 9-11 may compare to the accuracy of the WMD info foisted upon the country in the build up to the war. Was she pressured to find out and discover info the OSP desired while simultaneously being told to ignore 9-11 info.

Hows about a book, ala Scott Ritter??

I can dream, can't I? :shrug:

[kodi]

14. who else knew what you knew, when did they know & what did they do?

.

[Whoa_Nelly]

15. Take names and start the ass kicking

I would like to find out what Sibel knows and can verify and/or would testify to under oath. Get the names of people all, the time/dates and places involved in undermining the security of the US.

I would like to know what gave Sibel the courage to be the whistleblower regarding the FBI and its part in pre-September 11, 2001. What outcome does she envision from her actions? If "gagged", will she seek appeal? Will Sibel seek other venues to have the truth told? Does she think/believe/know that there was a conspiracy re: LIHOP?

Are there other issues of which she has knowledge regarding the current administration that would be damning? If so, would she be willing to speak out? Does she know others with whom she worked who also would be willing to come forward not only to verify her statements and FBI actions, but to stand as individual whistleblowers?

[Minstrel Boy]

16. here are a few:

"...translations of the pre 9-11 intercepts included (terrorist) money laundering, detailed and date specific information enough to alert the American people, and other issues dating back to 1999 which I won't go into right now."
http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=50

"You get to a point where it gets very complex, where you have money laundering activities, drug related activities, and terrorist support activities converging at certain points and becoming one."
http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml

This sounds like BCCI and Iran/Contra. Is that her understanding, too?

Did the intercepts mention activities related to Huffman Aviation, Mohammed Atta's Florida flight school, and its owners Rudi Dekkers and Wally Hilliard? If so, were they suggestive of money-laundering and drug-trafficking?

Did she see evidence of a money trail passing through Riggs Bank?

"translators before me had ongoing personal relationships with the subjects or targets of the FBI and DOJ pre 9-11 investigations--linked to intercepts and other intelligence--in June - July - August, just prior to the attacks."http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml

Were some of these relationships with suspected 9/11 hijackers?

Does she believe the relationships between translators and subjects had the knowledge and approval of her FBI superiors?

When Sibel invited the visitors in for tea, she said, Major Dickerson began asking Matthew Edmonds if the couple had many friends from Turkey here in the U.S. Mr. Edmonds said he didn't speak Turkish, so they didn't associate with many Turkish people. The Air Force officer then began talking up a Turkish organization in Washington that he described, according to the Edmondses, as "a great place to make connections and it could be very profitable."

Sibel was sickened. This organization was the very one she and Jan Dickerson were monitoring in a 9/11 investigation. Since Sibel had adhered to the rule that an F.B.I. employee does not discuss bureau matters with one's mate, her husband innocently continued the conversation. Ms. Dickerson and her husband offered to introduce the Edmondses to people connected to the Turkish embassy in Washington who belonged to this organization. ..."My husband keeps thinking he's talking about promoting business deals," Ms. Edmonds later said of the encounter. "He has no idea the man is talking about criminal activities with some semi-legitimate front."
http://www.gailsheehy.com/9_11/9_11_art1_21.html

Can she give us any details regarding the Turkish organization, and what she understands is the Turkish connection to 9/11?

Does she think the spy ring she found operating freely in the FBI translation department was "farmed out" to foreign intelligence by the FBI itself, possibly to Turkey's MIT?

[mmonk]

23. Yes

as much info as possible on the Turkish organization. Why the need to silence her?

[mmonk]

25. And if the commission is supposed

to get at where the problems there are in security and thus protect us in the future, why doesn't the commission demand the gag be lifted as to "protect" Americans. We can't be protected by testimony coverup.

[hel]

30. I was wondering the same thing

about the Turkish connection. What would MIT do with information regarding 9/11 or Islamist terror organizations in USA, you think? Doesn't make much sense to me.

I really don't think she is talking about MIT here. This could be another Turkish organization; possibly rich, Islamist, "semi-legitimate" groups, as she puts it, who infiltrated the Turkish Embassy and MIT's CIA-FBI connections. And the situation is even more dangerous and important to both USA and Turkey, then.

[ElementaryPenguin]

17. Did DOJ ask her to alter pre 9-11 translations to innocuous versions?

Retroactively - as it was alleged here?

http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=50

[floda]

18. here is one more:

http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml

And then you involve a significant amount of money into this equation. Then things start getting a lot of overlap-- money laundering, and drugs and terrorist activities and their support networks converging in several points. That's what I'm trying to convey without being too specific. And this money travels. And you start trying to go to the root of it and it's getting into somebody's political campaign, and somebody's lobbying. And people don't want to be traced back to this money.

what is she saying here and who's political campaign is she pointing at?

[Zorra]

19. If she is "gagged", but it is in the best interests of the people of the

US for her to come forward with documented information that can prove that there were actions taken which resulted in harm to the people of the US, it is her duty to come forward with it. And it is our duty to protect her.

If there are identifiable traitors in our government, and they can be exposed by the presentation of indisputable documented facts, we need to get rid of them ASAP.

Before anyone else dies because of their actions, or deliberate inaction.

[radfringe]

20. names, she needs to name names

especially in light of threats that preceded and followed her firing

subordinates take their cues from their leaders, and if their leaders use fear and retribution as a way of keeping people in line -- it's going to be used in all areas under that leadership

does she know of anyone else in her department or elsewhere that have similar experiences?

me thinks there is more to the "stalling" and "slow down" for purposes of getting a bigger budget

[Postman]

21. How come every American doesn't know who you are?

1. Have you or your family been threatened - physically, emotionally, economically - by anyone in government?

2. Do you believe there is a cover-up going on regarding 9/11?

3. Do you believe the field that you worked in at the FBI is properly performing its job now?

4. What, in your opinion, are the prospects for peace in the near future?

[buycitgo]

24. excellent points made here by most, especially about

the need to get the truth out, regardless

Ellsberg, of course, is the ideal example

he would have gone to prison for what he did, btw, had not Nixon sanctioned the plumbers' actions

that said, has she considered DISOBEYING the gag order and letting the cards fall where they may, thus exposing the CLEAR UNCONSTITUTIONALITY of this law, even though its been ruled upon already, IIRC, by the SCOTUS

this needs to be re-appraised by the high court, as its so obfviously intended to keep people from exposing wrongdoing by those in the most unreachable corridors of power

PS is she still married?

SMOKIN hot!

[scarletwoman]

22. Pre-9/11 "put" options/AB-Brown/CIA/Deutsche Bank/Saudis?

I'm not sure how to put this all together into a coherent question, but these are just a few interrelationships that would seem to call for further scrutiny. The first question would be, of course, is if any of what she knows relates to this particular tangle in the web.

There's a good summary of what I'm referring to here:
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/9-11/CIA-WTC.html

(Yes, I know it's Ruppert, but if the basic facts are correct, then this seems a worthwhile line of inquiry, imho.)

CIA Executive Director “Buzzy” Krongard Managed Firm that Handled “Put” Options on UAL

(excerpt)

Although uniformly ignored by the mainstream U.S. media, there is abundant and clear evidence that a number of transactions in financial markets indicated specific (criminal) foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

In the case of at least one of these trades — which has left a $2.5 million prize unclaimed — the firm used to place the “put options” on United Airlines stock was, until 1998, managed by the man who is now in the number three Executive Director position at the Central Intelligence Agency.

Until 1997 A.B. “Buzzy” Krongard had been Chairman of the investment bank A.B. Brown. A.B. Brown was acquired by Banker’s Trust in 1997. Krongard then became, as part of the merger, Vice Chairman of Banker’s Trust-AB Brown, one of 20 major U.S. banks named by Senator Carl Levin this year as being connected to money laundering.

Krongard’s last position at Banker’s Trust (BT) was to oversee “private client relations.” In this capacity he had direct hands-on relations with some of the wealthiest people in the world in a kind of specialized banking operation that has been identified by the U.S. Senate and other investigators as being closely connected to the laundering of drug money.

Krongard (re?) joined the CIA in 1998 as counsel to CIA Director George Tenet. He was promoted to CIA Executive Director by President Bush in March of this year. BT was acquired by Deutsche Bank in 1999. The combined firm is the single largest bank in Europe. And, as we shall see, Deutsche Bank played several key roles in events connected to the September 11 attacks.

(end excerpt)

sw

[wiggs]

26. Tough choice

Is this a minor thing or a big thing?

If this information is significant, I agree with Zorra. There must be ways to get around a gag order. Perhaps, if a congressperson believes the information is important enough and that national security is not at risk, then protection of congress might work. Or...Who does one appeal a gag order to?

If Sibel believes that national security is not at risk and if she has the personal backing of some in the legislative branch, then let her and them go to the mat on this one. Get the information out. Prosecution of a brave woman regarding transparency in government over 9/11 would not be popular.

She wouldn't be prosecuted after November in any case with a new administration. If she were prosecuted beforehand she would be pardoned.

Another thing....I believe she's told the story to the 9/11 Commission and to Senator Grassley. Why don't one of them out the information and dare prosecution. She doesn't have to do it alone. As I remember, 9/11 Commission investigators were running down corroborative witnesses and checking out the story. What happened as a result?

There's too much we don't know!

[mmonk]

27. Just get as much info that she can provide

Democracies depend on transparency.

[loudsue]

28. Yes! A specific question:

Does she have a WRITTEN RECORD of ALL of what she knows (details about what was going on from her experience as a translator) in safe keeping with someone, somewhere, in the event that one or more of the guilty parties should threaten -- or TAKE -- her life?

I mean, in addition to the testimony she already gave to the investigators? Or IS there MORE than what she has already given investigators/Senators?

Ya know, it might be wise of her to have her knowledge made VERY public in the event that something happens to her....through several different sources... not necessarily just in this country.

This woman needs to be protected.

:kick:

[nolabels]

32. I guessing several people must be helping her

With Daniel Ellsberg helping her there must be some pretty big fish on the line and a lot people in the background on both sides. With the puppet masters backing off like they did with her it proves there is quite a bit to lose.

The action of inaction leaves almost as much residue as anything else. In being just one of the most obvious clues, cowards and frauds are known for leaving people hanging when their fear is too great for them to do otherwise.

These people in Bushco have no compunction about doing things that might endanger others if it enhances their positions. I would also guess she has doled out enough information to others to make it more important for them that she is alive than otherwise. Never fear, the truth will set you free (said the blind man running down the ally in the middle of the night)

[hel]

29. Ask her about the other Turks

that tried to get her to spy for them, if you have the time. Was it MIT (Turkish CIA), or other, illegal organization? Why, does she suppose, they were asking for that information?

[TruthIsAll]

33. Will, ask her if she believes Bush was telling the truth

when he twice stated that he saw the FIRST plane hit the WTC, whereas no one else in the world saw it on TV..until the next day.

[mzmolly]

34. Here is a transcript of a previous interview, may give you some ideas for

questions/follow up?

http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml

EDITOR'S NOTE: Jim Hogue provided the following conclusion to this interview: "The facts reported by Sibel Edmonds and Behrooz Sarshar are incontrovertible. Result: Silence. And you must agree to be a part of this silence.The gag order permeates the White House, the Senate Judiciary Committee, all levels of the FBI, the CIA, the 9/11 Commission, the NSC, the Pentagon, the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, and the mass media. The media and the White House will next assassinate Miss Edmond's character, as they have done to others who haven't rolled over and played dead. Never in the course of human events has so great a story been covered up by so many on the orders of so few.

The likes of Seymour Hersh, Bob Woodard and Judith Miller should put their tails between their legs and slink away, while the obscure academic, Dr. David Ray Griffin, while candidate John Buchanan, citizen Eric Hufschmid, author Gore Vidal, independent journalists Michael Ruppert and Christopher Bollyn, and the 9/11 families are recognized among those who kept open the window to Democracy.

Miss Edmonds has challenged us to do our jobs as citizens. It isn't often that a phone call could change the course of history. Now is such a time."

[buycitgo]

35. whoaaaaaa! quite the snip, there! strong stuff

can't wait to read the article

who's this Hogue guy? a big kudos to him

only problem: why did he include Judith Miller as a journalist?z
OK....Woodward, too

one out of three is about par for mainsteam hoes, I guess

[buycitgo]

36. HOLY HELL!!!!!! Dale Watson, one of the coverer uppers, is

praised by Richard Clarke in his book as one of the VERY FEW FBI creatures who wanted to look into alQaeda before the attack.

from the Edmonds interview:

During my work there I came across some very significant issues that I started reporting in December of 2001 to the mid-level management within the FBI. They said to basically leave it alone, because if they were to get into those issues it would end up being a can of worms.

And after I didn't see any response from this mid-level bureaucratic management I took it to higher levels all the way up to Dale Watson and Director Mueller. And, again, I was asked not to take this any further and just let it be. And if I didn't do that they would retaliate against me.

the other he singled out, of course, was John ONeill.

I'd like VERY VERY much to hear his take on this, as it cast doubts on his cred, which, from what I've seen so far, is pretty solid

this needs to be dealt with

Will.....what do you think about this?

Will?

anybody else?

[Minstrel Boy]

37. That's a great point that should be pursued.

Why is Sibel Edmonds' Dale Watson not Richard Clarke's Dale Watson?

[buycitgo]

39. they look like the same guy to me.....and check THIS out!

Watson was the guy who told Clarke to fly the saudis out of the country, according to these mostly wingnut sites

have you seen any of this?

getting interesting for me

I know I'm way behind you in checking all this out, but what do you think?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Dale+Watson+Richard+Clarke

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