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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:27 PM
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(((((BREAKING NEWS))))) -Power Outages in NY, Detroit, Toronto, and
Ottawa
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mjb4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:27 PM
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1. more home grown terror
direct from bushco
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:30 PM
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9. I doubt it
probably just a problem with the grid.
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ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:39 PM
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33. Are Canada, NY, PA, OH, and MI all on the same grid?
That seems like a pretty damn huge problem.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:44 PM
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41. I doubt it...
as my lights are still on.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:45 PM
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43. Yes
Do you remember the great New York City black out in the late seventies. It was caused in part because of a problem with the grid that cut New York off from plants in Canada that supplied some of its power.
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ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:46 PM
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44. No, I wasn't born yet :)
But this still seems pretty damn fishy.
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moosedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:36 PM
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27. I knew this was coming...
When they started putting on the propaganda about the surface to air missles, I said to myself....this is leading up to another lesson. We must be scared so they can do their evil. The no good .....
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:28 PM
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2. where are the links?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:28 PM
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5. I'm Watching MSNBC
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:35 PM
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24. what are they saying

what is it attributed to????
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:29 PM
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6. Breaking - no links yet.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:32 PM
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14. LBN thread link here
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:28 PM
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3. now Cleveland
eom
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:28 PM
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4. CNN: Cleveland now too
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:29 PM
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7. AP hasn't updated in an hour
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 03:30 PM by goobergunch
and my power's still on in Philly.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:29 PM
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8. Thunderstorms? Windows worm?
Hmmm...
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:30 PM
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10. Do you think someone is po about Hamboli?
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:31 PM
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11. OK, where is KEN LAY!?
This sounds like his kind of scenario.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:31 PM
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12. Jr's Poll numbers are down and he needs a boost
GD'it I bet Chicago is next. I have a class tonight if it's going to happen I hope it happens soon.

Oh, shit I live on the 33'rd floor and I can't walk down that many stairs.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:31 PM
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13. Now in Cleveland and Buffalo
And a Con-Ed transformer is on fire too.

I remember the blackout of 64 but it didnt reach Cleveland or Toronto.

Is bu$hco up to this??
:tinfoilhat:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:32 PM
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15. also in LBN
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:32 PM
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16. CNN: FIre?
reporter just said that there was a fire somewhere that might have somethign to do with it
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:37 PM
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30. a tranformer fire
is what CNN is reporting, but how the hell does that affect such a huge area?
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:55 PM
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51. Do a little research on the Great NY Blackout of 1977
It is a great study on how one small problem can lead to more problems until the whole City goes dark. The same type of thing can happen to an entire section of the grid, but supposedly they put in some changes after 1977 to prevent this.

I am trying to find some information. I will post links if I find anything good.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:32 PM
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17. POrtions of Toledo
on CNN
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:32 PM
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18. The GOP will blame "Grayout" Davis.
And Arnold will be called in to fix it. :-)
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:36 PM
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26. LOL
Probably.

B-)
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:33 PM
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19. I hope looting doesn't start!
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:43 PM
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40. Half the country has a carry/conceal law
That should stop the looting, right? :eyes:

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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:33 PM
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20. There's also a DIM BULB in Crawford, Texas
:)
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:37 PM
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31. Har!
Dat funny!
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:38 PM
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32. LOL!!!
I about did a spit-take reading that one!
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demsrule4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:41 PM
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35. :) you just made my afternoon
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:58 PM
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56. Brightened up my day too.
:)
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:33 PM
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21. Well, at least
...we know that San Diego and Orange Counties in California won't have any power outages today. GW is here, after all, and there must be no interference with his fundraising efforts or photo ops.

:eyes:
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:34 PM
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22. Power Outage at Olympic Stadium
MONTREAL -- During the top of the second inning in the game between the Montreal Expos and Colorado Rockies, all power at Olympic Stadium went out and caused a delay that lasted an hour and 16 minutes. Play resumed at 8:47 p.m. ET

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb_news.jsp?ymd=20030813&content_id=481484&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

The link for West NY times out here is the googles search page.

http://news.google.com/news?q=outage+New+York&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:13 PM
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62. MY SISTER IS IN NJ -- SHE IS BEING EVACUATED FROM MALL

I am trying to gather if all of jersey is out. SHE SAYS THERE IS NO WATER.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:34 PM
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23. uh oh
people are panicking....
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:35 PM
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25. just happened here! Just like in California! The Deregulation Scam
I posted right before the switch over to DU2 that NY is about to get California-ed with power deregulation - I was in CA during that time period, and it's all happening again! Brownouts, blackouts, until we deregulate and privatize and the corporations jack up our electricity 1000%

ARG!!! $#@$#@#$!~
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:54 PM
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50. Yeah, it played in California, now they are going global.
///Gee, guess we better scrap all those clean air standards and OSHA rules and get to putting up new power plants on every corner./// sarcasm off
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:36 PM
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28. Bush's ratings are getting very low... you knew this was coming
it was absolutely predictable and in fact, I predicted it in a previous post.



And, there's one been another data point that's not included when I posted this in late June, very early July.

It's time to get these two lines back together again. For reference purposes, the blue lines is people that would vote to reelect Bush, the pink line is people who either will not vote for Bush or will consider someone else.
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:44 PM
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42. I posted the same thing as you did. Here we go again with Jr's BS!
He needs to be taken out of office immediatly.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:37 PM
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29. Reports Of Pandemonium
in downtown NY....


I swear guys.... people are scared..... if our candidate is not seen as strong we are screwed.

Blackouts happened in the past but folks didn't think it was terrorism related.


I don't think we can overestimate how much the world has changed post 9-11.
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:39 PM
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34. IS THIS TERROR RELATED I HAVE FAMILY THERE????

WHAT ARE THEY SAYING????
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:42 PM
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36. That's The point
They don't know what caused it....

But people are thinking terrorism.
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:57 PM
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54. Well I can understand why

I have abc on it does seem they really do not know what caused that. Can you imagine if this is terrorism and they start turning electricity off nationwide.
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:58 PM
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55. Ted just said they are ruling out terrorism until they know what cause is.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:42 PM
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37. I sure hope he doesn't reach down south to Houston.
As hot as it is here? Shoot!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:43 PM
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38. Don't panic... hopefully it's a power grid problem.
I'm sure we'll find out more soon. Let's not :tinfoilhat: and jump to conclusions here.

Steady...
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:59 PM
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57. I have the news on now I was only getting panicky because

I was just on line here and I couldn't see for myself... THEY ARE RULING OUT TERROR TILL they know what the cause is. Okay I am hanging steady.
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:55 PM
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Those looking for the Chimp right now should try looking under the bed
He's not there!

In the closet?

He's not there!

In the fallout shelter?

He's not there!

On Air Force One, getting out of harm's way?

There's Spot, I mean, the p(R)esident!

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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:10 PM
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61. Yes, We must have a Strong Leader
Buncha hoowie.

We need a competent leader. Mussolini was a strong leader. But he got his ass kicked in WWII (trying to avoid references to that "other guy" from WWII).

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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:43 PM
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39. Subways down
Confirmed by MTA -- CNN

During rush hour. Jeez, it's gonna be hot in there.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:46 PM
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45. ANOTHER SPECIAL REPORT ON ABC...
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:49 PM
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46. CNN: Possible Overload
Getting reports that a plant in Niagra overloaded, most likely an accident
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:50 PM
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Could it be the WORM??????????????????????????
Just a guess, my wife mentioned it to me.
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FubarFly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:49 PM
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47. The Niagra Mohawk power grid has been overloaded

--Cnn Headline News
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:52 PM
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49. The Niagara Mohawk powergrid is overloaded
just reported this second
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Arbustosux Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:50 PM
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48. Can't we use this??
Bush can't turn the power on in Iraq, can't keep it on in the US; shortages of natural gas and shortages at the pumps too!
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:55 PM
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52. HAS EFFECTED FIVE STATES -- KOPPEL ON ABC NEWS

Mr. Gross.... Speaking on behalf of con ed says might be a domino effect. but not sure this is caused by the coned fire because there is no outage in canada which would be connected to this grid, yet they are not out.
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:56 PM
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53. Seems like they really do not YET know the cause of these outages.

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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 03:59 PM
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58. Who needs terrorists when we have a vacationing clueless bush?
Talk about a misapplied recall~.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:04 PM
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59. Our Friendly Neighbors to the North saying "F--- You" Back
A lot of the N.E. is on a large grid with a lot of power from Quebec, along with Quebec, Ontario, etc.

Fortunatly, I'm safe here in North Dakota living large on that nice, cheap power from the WA state dams.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:10 PM
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60. Does Texas share a grid with any state?
I will have to do some research on the power grids. I learned a little during the Y2K thing but forgot most of what I read about.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:15 PM
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63. Dammit, somehow I just know that
Clinton's penis is somehow responsible for this.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:16 PM
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64. My bets are on the computer worm! Seriously. ........n/t
TYY
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:17 PM
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65. Freepers are freaking out
Al-quaida said they would attack our backbone. Is this what they mean?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/964250/posts?q=1&&page=1
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DarbyUSMC Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:25 PM
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66. Cable and electric off. My building has a generator. Rochester NY N/T
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 04:42 PM
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67. Is just NYC out, how about upstate?
Niagra Mohawk serves Central NY, Con Ed covers the city and Long Island.
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