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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:39 PM
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For those who watched, who Wasn't at the Funeral? Might be interesting .
Edited on Fri Jun-11-04 07:40 PM by KoKo01
I didn't see Ted Kennedy (maybe Caroline was chosen to represent the family, but no Ted). I didn't spot Condi Rice, either. I watched the C-Span view of the Funeral so I wouldn't have to listen to the comments and could focus on who was there and their interactions.

How many Democrats were absent, I wonder. And, it's interesting that there were almost no people of color except foreign representatives. Two of the Military Pallbearers seemed to be African-American but that was it. I don't count Clarence Thomas and Colin Powell.

I wonder if few Democrats were invited, or they declined. Anyone else notice anyone missing who would usually be at a State Funeral? :shrug:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:42 PM
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1. how many made the long trek to the west coast
I'm sure they were all at the DC National Cathedral for the "service"

And didn't I hear the gravesite service was to be small and by invite only?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:46 PM
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3. It's the DC National Cathedral Service I'm talking about. That was the
big one today.
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:44 PM
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2. Most of congress was there, so Ted was probably there
I saw Kerry talking with Dawg and JC. Interesting point, The presidents all greeted each other, and even poppy and crashcart shook Big Dawg's hand when they sat down. All except for shrub, who just walked in and sat down. The only person he acknowledged was Nancy, and that was because he "escorted her" to her seat.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:47 PM
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5. I didn't see Kerry there. I was looking. I thought he paid his respects
in California while he was out for his daughter's graduation? :shrug:
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:11 PM
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24. Kerry was there. There are pics posted of him with Big Dawg
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:16 PM
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25. Here's Al, Tipper, Kerry and Hillary in pictures




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salonghorn70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:21 PM
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26. Great Pic of Clintons and Fords
I did not like Ford's politics but he is a decent guy.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:36 PM
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27. That's great! Thanks for the pix. I guess the camera feed didn't want to
dwell on many of the Democrats. I looked and looked for Kerry (and he's hard to miss since he's so tall, but didn't see him) and they showed Gore once, but not Tipper. It was shot from the side or cropped.

I think there might have been only one camera feed, because I flipped a couple of times to CNN and MSNBC after the service had ended and the folks were leaving the Cathedral, and it was the same camera angle.

Repug Cameraperson or "orders from the TOP" ....try to avoid the Dems.

I saw Madeline Allbright leaving alone walkin with an umbrella. I thought it was kind of sad she was alone, and wondered if it was because so few Dems were invited. That's what made me post this.
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dwilson Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:46 PM
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4. Hillary was missing.
It seems she should have been there with her husband as a former First Lady, if not as a Senator. She must have known Reagan as well as any other Dem there. No criticism, just an observation. Everything is so political these days; who knows, she may not have been permitted to attend.

I did notice the lack of diversify also. But that's not unusual since he didn't have many minorities around him in life either.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:49 PM
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6. Hillary was there
Seated next to her husband.

Kerry was there too.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:49 PM
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7. Hillary was there
right beside Bill. Maybe she was just out of the camera shots you saw.
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:49 PM
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8. She was there sitting next to Bill Clinton
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:50 PM
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9. Nope, she was sitting with the Big Dog.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:05 PM
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22. Barbara Bush's choice of color compared to the other First Ladies...
She felt the need to wear a light colored suit while the rest of the women wore tasteful black outfits. At least it was not polka-dotted. What is her problem - is there a need to call attention to herself?
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Bronco69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:50 PM
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10. Hillary was there. She was sitting right next to
The Big Dog! :-)
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:51 PM
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11. Hillary was there, so stop bashing her.
Your buddy Ollie North wasn't there.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:50 PM
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29. Stupid Ollie....
made a statement that he wasn't going because his being there would take attention away from the service itself. What an asshole. It's amazing to me that after watching quite a bit of this, I have yet to see Nancy, Ron Jr or Patty even make eye contact with Michael, much less speak to him. Very strange bunch, all of them.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 09:04 PM
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33. I was hoping Ollie would be invited to give the eulogy
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 01:24 AM
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34. How about Fawn Hall?
Oliver Norths secretary (shredder)?

She had the Senate drooling during Iran Contra!

Fawn Hall Then


Fawn Hall Now
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:51 PM
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12. Hillary was there, sitting right next to Bill. Through the whole service.
The camera panned to them many times.
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:55 PM
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18. And Hillary, because she is SO classy -
is not wearing white, unlike some we shall not name.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 11:05 AM
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37. This person?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:51 PM
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13. One of the Reagan staffers
was on TV last night talking about all the planning, and he sort of apologized that they couldn't invite everybody who wanted to come. Just wasn't room in the Cathedral.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:52 PM
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14. I didn't see Al Gore there.
Should have even been there? As a former Vice President?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:54 PM
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15. Al and Tipper were there
Edited on Fri Jun-11-04 07:57 PM by supernova
We had a pic of them going in. I'll see if I can find it. There was a thread of funeral pics earlier.

edit: Here they are.

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4MoreYearsOfHell Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:55 PM
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16. I thought I saw him...
Al Gore that is...
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:55 PM
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19. President Gore was there...
..saw the pic somewhere, looked like they sat him next to Herr Rove...bastards!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:55 PM
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17. Honestly, no offense, KoKo01,...but, I really don't care.
"Glorification", whether engaged by presence or absence,...is,...just beyond me. Every time yet ANOTHER topic is post about an individual who has passed,...I just feel burn-out at the "glorification", whether by presence or absence, through feeling or thought.

There are so many other individuals who are deserving of our attention, as well. I am tired of witnessing so much energy, whether negative or positive or anything in between, being spent on just this one human being. My comfort is knowing that it will pass.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:56 PM
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20. Funeral Pics
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egran Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 07:59 PM
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21. Non-military blacks
Were any blacks other than Thomas, Powell, and Rice even invited to attend?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:09 PM
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23. Hi egran!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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PainInTheAss Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:43 PM
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28. Clarence Thomas and Colin Powell are not "of color"?
How do you figure that?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 09:02 PM
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32. Think about them for awhile and you might understand.
:eyes:
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:51 PM
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30. I didn't see Gerald Ford. (nt)
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:56 PM
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31. Yeah, he was there, 2nd row, away from the aisle
Looked tired.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 01:45 AM
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35. He's
91 years old, this is probably getting to be a bit much for him. I did see Dennis Kucinich there.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:52 AM
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36. Yeah, I saw him in a picture in this morning's paper
He was next to the Carters.
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