My Thanksgiving ploy, and McVain for VP

[sangha]

I have a little trick I perform at every family dinner. I call it my Thanksgving ploy because I first discovered it at a family dinner on Thanksgiving.

The way it works is that when I've finished my meal, which is before most everyone is finished, I rise from my chair and bring my dirty plate and glass to the kitchen, rinse it off and put it in the sink or dishwaher. Then I return to the table and converse with the rest of my family while they finish their meal. When everyone's done, the hostess starts cleaning off the dirty dishes, with aid of the other female family members. As soon as all but one of the dishes have been removed from the table, I stand up and say (loudly enough to be heard by most, but not so loud as to be obvious) "Here, let me help clean up" which is met with comments like "Oh thanks, but it's OK" followed by comments like "That sangha. He's always so helpful". Then they yell at their husbands for never helping them.

I get all of the credit, with none of the work. Kerry did the same thing.

He suggested that McCain *consider* running as Kerry's VP KNOWING that McCain would never agree. He gets credit from Independents, who will look at this as a sign of moderation and bipartisanship (independents tend to be moderate and hate partisanship) without having to give up anything.

[greatauntoftriplets]

1. Why don't you just start cleaning up???

[sangha]

5. Cooking isn't enough?

.

[Walt Starr]

2. DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!

GIVE THAT MAN A CIGAR, HE'S GOT IT PEGGED!!!!!

This election will be decided by potentially less than five percent of the voters in less than fifteen states total, and it's these folks who will actually give Kerry the benefit of the doubt because, after all, he actually TRIED to go for bipartisanship for a ticket.

[lancdem]

3. Yep

the idea of a national unity ticket has a strong appeal, especially with Bush being such a rigid ideologue.

[Warpy]

4. Yeah, but with a right winger like McCain on the ticket

I don't think I'd bet on much longevity for Kerry.

Right wingers have a history of eliminating people who get in their way.

[sangha]

7. Talk about not getting it

.

[Gloria]

6. Except, the healines don't read as nicely and that is what people read....

McCain rejects Kerry's veep overture

Friday, June 11, 2004 Posted: 4:13 PM EDT (2013 GMT)

McCain REJECTS, McCain TURNS DOWN.........
A nice setup for the echo chamber....

Plus, it's the set up for the VP nominee to be labeled in Paragraph 1 as

"So and so, the second choice of John Kerry, ...."

Jeez

[sangha]

8. I don't see anythign wrong with that

It makes the R's look more partisan, and the Dems less partisan.

And as far as being 2nd choice, very few people care about the VP. Even more so when it comes to independents.

[Rosco T.]

9. Gawd forbid people UNDERSTAND that this was a campaign tactic....

and if you read the reports he never ACTUALLY came out and said 'be VP'... they just considered it and talked, but he NEVER REALLY ASKED.

But it makes Kerry look like (gasp) someone who would reach out to the independents and the moderate 'pugs WHO HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF SHRUBYA..

Will McCain have a place in the Kerry adminstration... count on it.. some cabinet post. RIGHT NOW McCain purports to be the 'good little solider' and (halfhearteldy) support Bush... but soon as the neo-nazis have been taken down.... the 'for the good of the country' and to 'heal the division', he'll humbly accept a post with his friend Kerry.

Gawd.. why are so many people being such ASSHOLES on this and not thinking past the end of their noses?????

[sangha]

10. S/he must have forbidden it

Even after I explained it, one poster noted that if McCain was VP, the Repukes would assasinate Kerry.

Talk about not getting it

[emulatorloo]

11. and every day the rumors flew, karl rove raged and GWB cried himself

to sleep. . .and I was delighted by the thought of how upset they were.

[sangha]

12. But oddly enough

that doesn't happen at my family dinners. Go figger

:shrug:

[Walt Starr]

13. A kick because some still don't "get it"

less than five percent of the voters in less than 15 states, that's who Kerry was playing to here.

[KoKo]

16. Do you mean 5% is more important the whole rest of the Dem party including

us on the more Progressive side, Walt? (I'm one of those clueless types who don't always get subtlety, although I get angry when folks don't get my own "subtlety."}

Is that what you meant? 5% is worth pandering to, at all costs?

[leyton]

20. Geez. McCain is not on the ticket.

Can the rest of the Democratic party not tolerate a little campaign stategy here and there? Kerry probably picked up votes and the right at no cost to the left.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

14. What the American people need are more "tricks"

from their politicians. :eyes: Not that half the voting eligible population doesn't see through this bullshit.

Is honesty and integrity so out of vogue?

You see it as genius. I see it as the same old, same old.

[sangha]

15. I see it like the weather

What good does complaining do? It won't stop the rain.

[KoKo]

17. Yes! TRICKS! TRICKS! Give us more Tricks and Promise us Treats! Oh

dear...you mean there's NO treats left? The bowl is empty....so sad..
:silly:

Reagan stress...

[sangha]

22. Promise you nothing

The tricks aren't meant for you. Many things aren't meant for you. Not everything is about you, and how it makes you feel.

Get over it

[Bandit]

18. The Tugboat Strategy

When a large ship is entering port and needs to be guided/escorted a tug is dispatched for the job. The tug never meets the ship head on as the ship is usually in excess of a thousand tons while the tug is around fifty. What happens is the tug aligns itself alongside the ship headed in the same direction and gradually swings the ship around to the direction the tug wishes for it to take and then guides the ship to port. Kerry is applying this strategy in more ways than one.

[never_get_over_it]

19. OK I'm glad you posted this

I was pretty upset with the thought of Kerry wanting McCain. Although I don't agree with the ploy I understand it and feel better knowing there is no chance of it happening. I do not like McCain, he has been entirely to supportive of GW and after the Bush treatment of McCain in SC primary - I have to wonder about the character of McCain not standing up to the puke for the attacks. It is said that McCain really hates Bush - but if he does and still sucks up to him he is a hypocrit and I want no part of him and truthfully no part of any repunk.

And if you really do the cooking I'll cut you some slack but if you don't get up and clear the table.....

[sangha]

21. I despise all Freepers, incuding McCain

and I hate to clean.

But I do take care of my own plate. :-)