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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:09 PM
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Jury Deadlocked in Sentence Phase of Terry Nichols Trial....
The death penalty is now off the table. Thought you guys might be interested.
Duckie
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:10 PM
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1. What happens...
if the jury can't agree on a sentence?
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:11 PM
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2. I'm not sure...
But I think the Judge makes the decision.
Duckie
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:28 PM
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4. The judge does the sentencing
and can only give life not the death penalty.
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 08:23 PM
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3. From what I understand, it is over. We are discussing it at...
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 09:01 PM
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5. Good!!!!

That fucker still knows something. They should have NEVER executed McVeigh!!!!

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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 09:14 PM
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6. Yup...
you got that right!
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 11:28 PM
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12. Seriously ...

NPR had an expose on the whole "John Doe #3" thing. I was SHOCKED to hear something on NPR these days. There are still a LOT of loose string that the FBI hasn't followed up on.

Executing folks involved in conspiracies is a BAD idea. I guess prosecutors thought they'd have time to follow up with McVeigh. McVeigh fooled them. He didn't file a SINGLE appeal!!!! He wanted to die ASAP before he spilled the beans!!!!

Speaking of fiends, it will be VERY interesting to here Saddam Hussein's defense. He will be VERY glad to offer up WHERE he got his WMD from!!! And exactly WHO approved of his gassing the Kurds (Bush Sr!!!).

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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 02:39 AM
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13. Did you listen to the NPR report on the secret service log...
...that describes detailed information seen on a security camera's tape and includes remarks like "the suspects (note plural) exited the vehicle" and "the truck explodes three minutes and six seconds after it is parked." That was scary! The agent, while testifying during the trial, said he did not know why he wrote all that. Not very convincing if you ask me.

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TexasMexican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 09:39 PM
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7. Sorry to hear that...
fuckers like McVeigh and Nicols deserve to die.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 09:46 PM
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8. I'm so happy to be around such enlightenment.
Why don't you share with the rest of us your complete understanding of this case. I, for one, was not on the jury, and am not so enlightened. I wait with baited breath for you utterings. Maybe they should be in prison forever. At least there is someone to interrogate when the theory changes.
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stavka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 09:50 PM
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9. My only acception to the Death Penalty
... is that those who are an immediate and active threat to the Republic, and have clearly presented a total lack of concern for non-combattants may need to be removed in the interest of the Republic.

McVeigh met this definition, some Michigan farmer who helped make a bomb does not. If they can put him there, and say he knew what the target was, fine - he makes the list.

Keep him arounf for the next thirty, you'll feel better about it in the morning.


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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 09:56 PM
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10. If they're incarcerated, how do they meet the definition?
Just curious.
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stavka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-04 10:14 PM
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11. I think that is a great question
If as a state, you continue not to be secure because of a prisoner, they may meet my magical definition...

e.g. American advance troops capture Hitler in April of 1945, the SS and Hitler Youth, bolstered by regular army holdouts in Volksturm continue to resist, believing in Nazi propaganda. - I have to take a poll - but Adolf takes the drop.

It is extreme, when I am in favor of the DP
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