Please someone post Kerrys response (re: McCain VP)

[Beatrix]

Has Kerry responded to this yet? Or does anyone know when/if he will?

The only official thing I've seen is that his press secretary declined to comment when asked which is daming IMO. She could have said it was false - end of story. But she didn't.

With all the sources reporting this now (including ABC news) I want a response from Kerry to this, and no - "declined to comment" is not acceptable. I have a feeling I am not the only one who wants an explanation.

[lastknowngood]

1. Kerry is disapointed he could have gotten 2 or 3 hundred votes

from the right and lost 3 to 5 million on the left to ensure his loss
in Nov.

[boxster]

3. How about the middle?

Ah, ignoring the middle again.

This isn't about the right or the left. It's about the middle - the independents.

[emulatorloo]

8. it is a game a strategy a psych-out of Karl Rove nothing to get upset

about. out of it John Kerry impresses independents for free (ie we don't really have to put up w mccain for vp) and screw's with shrub's mind

[Beatrix]

11. I bet

That's why his spokesperson "declined to comment" instead of calling like it was. If this was Rove's doing WTF did she "decline to comment" for instead of calling him on it?

Some people are just as bad as the bush sheeple. I have a feeling if Kerry raped a person on live TV some people here would be saying it was Rove illusion. If I was that naive I'd be a republican.

I want to hear something from Kerry. Until I do I can only assume AP, ABC news, CNN, et al are correct. (yes, I've been doing my homework and getting more frustrated with each source I see confirming this)

[emulatorloo]

14. Not FROM Rove, but to "Mess With Rove's Mind"

McCain has categorically denied he was offered anything. He was not offered the VP. This was all rumor and innuendo to impress independents and make GWB cry himself to sleep each night. Why are you still so upset?

[yardwork]

15. I have a feeling you are here solely to cause trouble.

You are tossing out innuendoes and hypotheticals, some of them outrageous.... "I have a feeling if Kerry raped a person on live TV some people here would...."

That's outrageous. It's nasty and underhanded. Kerry has done no such thing. You're just putting it out there hoping that some mud will stick.

[Beatrix]

16. Are you serious?

Are you really trying to make an (obviously) extreme fictional EXAMPLE of mine (intended entirely to demonstrate a point) as literal?

"Kerry has done no such thing"

The hell you say? NOTICE IT WAS A FICTIONAL EXAMPLE to demonstrate a point?

I wonder what the real problem is. People who have a problem with a repub VP or people that don't.

[yardwork]

18. I have a problem with people who believe fictional "news" stories

put out by the BushCo-controlled press, and then run around screeching at Kerry because they swallowed the lies hook line and sinker.

[Beatrix]

22. So what press is NOT bush controlled?

Because I think just about every mainstream source has reported it now. If you have a reputable source calling BS then show it to me.

I want to hear what Kerry has to say.

[David Dunham]

2. Moderates will like Kerry for reaching out to McCain

Liberals will vote for Kerry regardless of this.

[Beatrix]

4. Uh huh

this is one liberal that very possibly would not.

Talk about giving Nader and the Greens ammo.

[ibegurpard]

7. yeah

It's just one more thing I'm going to have to choke down to pull the lever for him. What's sad is that this Bush administration has given us a historic opportunity.

[ldf]

23. one more thing I'm going to have to choke down to pull the lever for him

yeah, it's been so long that i have regained my gag reflex.

it's like kerry is begging a republican to be on the ticket.

it's enough to make you want to :puke:

:grr:

and whether it is a fictional story or not becomes almost irrelevant, doesn't it?

[TexasProgresive]

9. Those are some stuupid liberals then.

That's how they keep our kind in line-they get us into faction fights and we do all the dirty work. Grow up and support our nominee.

[happynewyear]

21. I believe you are right

because I don't care. McCain is an ok guy and I have nothing against him. However, I'd strongly prefer Kucinich to be Kerry's vice-president but who cares what I think?

[doni_georgia]

26. Very good point

If McCain had fought back against the Bushshitsta machine in Va. and SC in 2000, we have had President McCain or President Gore instead of the shit-on-two-gumby-legs that the Supreme Court stuck us with. In all likelihood, most of the issues we have with the current administration would be very muted or nonexistent.
"Good is not as good as better." No, I'm not endorsing McCain, but Dim Son has shown us that there is indeed far worse. Just about any non-neocon to the left of Fred Phelps would be better. My bulldog would do a better job, and he chews on paint cans. Nuff said.
- Mac in Ga

[emulatorloo]

5. Try this thread - it has a good analogy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1773675#1773910

[never_get_over_it]

6. I'm going to have a hard enough time voting for Kerry

if he picked McCain I just don't know what I would do....

[LittleApple81]

10. People who hate the alternative (BushCo, Repugs, PNAC) will

vote for Kerry even if they don't particularly agree with everything he does or represents.
These voters will probably vote for Kerry for the presidency because he is "The warm body who can win against Bush" (what would the letters be? not ABB but WBWCWAB???) not because they are passionate about him. But since it is politics, it really doesn't matter, does it?

[Beatrix]

12. Hmmmm....

Believe it or not the majority of the populace is NOT ABB. While "he's not bush!" is good enough for most here it is NOT good enough for the majority of people Kerry needs. (i.e. "the middle") The majority of people don't feel the nation will die if bush gets 4 more. Because of that they can just as easily vote bush as they can kerry.

They want something to vote for. With Kerry bluring the lines between him self and repubs like this is does NOT accomplish that. Are you aware McCain is anti-choice? Are you aware he has supported the regime just about 100%, and has worked against most dem values? Do you have any idea what that would have done to us in November? Think before you defend this stupid attempt to get McCain on the ticket.

Sometimes I think the party WANTS to lose elections.

This is just upsetting. I've donated to kerry and I've chosen to support him. I've talked to people and told them about why they should vote kerry over bush. Now I find out a dem VP is 2nd choice to a repub VP. If I wanted to vote repub I would vote bush!

[emulatorloo]

17. Think about it

You say that Kerry needs the middle. You are correct.

He impresses the middle by "considering" McCain. However, McCain would never do it, and Kerry would never really have McCain as a VP.

So the middle is impressed. "Hey, Kerry is not a yucky partisan like GWB!" And they are impressed for free (ie we don't really have to put up w McCain).

[Beatrix]

19. I see your logic

I just don't think it works out in a real life scenario. It all would depend on how it is reported - and I have yet to see any mainstreme source reporting it that way. I have a feeling FAUX et al won't decide to do that any time soon.

[emulatorloo]

24. Won't matter how Faux etc reports it. . .

Independent voters pride themselves for "thinking for themselves"

So they will think about about it "independently," draw their own conclusions, and ignore any negative fox spin.

[greatauntoftriplets]

20. If McCain is on the Democratic ticket, I have an alternative....

Write in Attila the Hun.

[LittleApple81]

27. LOL!!!! I had another thread where I showed my displeasure at

the McCain suggestion. It offends me! It really does!!!! Even if it was done as a "political move" it just irritates the hell out of me that somebody that IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT ME would even think of looking at McCain for political expediency.. well. But I asked myself, since it is already at the point that it is Kerry as the Dem candidate (and Nader won't be able to win) or Bush*, I have to eat my disgust and continue with Kerry.
Somebody had given an example (to explain it to us simple minded people) using a trick at the dinner table to avoid cleaning dishes and still coming out as a "little wife's helper" -- here is the link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1773675

Let me tell you, that trick hasn't worked at my house ever. Because I don't have people in my house that play political games.

But I will vote for Kerry.... sigh..... he doesn't seem to think he needs to cater to the base and in this occassion, for me, he is right. Damn it!!!

[yardwork]

13. Oh for crying out loud.

Sometimes I think that what Republicans say about some Democrats is true - some of us are just hopeless whiners.

Give. It. A. Rest.

[JI7]

25. and this is why Kerry reaches out to the middle