if I wanted to know what freepers thought, I'd f**king go there

[maggrwaggr]

enough with the Freepers threads.

I don't CARE what freepers think, I don't want to know what they're saying, and if I did, I'd go there, okay?

If you want to find out, go there. Post it somewhere else, not here.

[Joe the Revelator]

1. and if YOU don't want to read it...

don't open the thread. pretty simple if you ask me.

[maggrwaggr]

3. this is DU, not freeperville. Half the front page is freeper shit

and I don't want to have to go through and click every goddamn post so it disappears.

My point is "IF I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE FREEPERS WERE SAYING, THERE'S A REAL EASY WAY TO DO THAT, AND THAT'S TO GO THERE"

Seems pretty obvious to me.

[mopaul]

21. how will we know how to behave? or talk? or think?

what if i say something that they'll use against us? maybe i should've have never said it in the first place, then they'll love me.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

53. Yep. "Groupthink." Followed by "then they'll love me."

Give me a list of the things you want me to say, and I won't say anything that's not on the list, and maybe in return you'll like me and let me play in your club house.

I'll just follow the threads posted by the "over 1000 posts" folks (I hope I can distinguish between the "wise and sage elders" and those evil masquerading freepers), take careful note of what they say, and reply with "You Betcha" and a toast, taking special care to not include any of my own thoughts or observations:

:toast:

...or maybe a "kick" to show that I'm a REAL Democrat, not a lurking freeper:

:kick:

The kid who owns the ball gets to pick the team. Last time I checked, Skinner owns the ball, it's Skinner's call, and anyone else is blowing smoke up the collective arse.

[boilerbabe]

61. Hey, Hunny! I wouldn't worry about those over 1K posts

I have been on DU for about 2 yrs, but just haven't managed to post over 1,000 for many reasons...Just LOOKING and also kept getting either smackdowns or forgetting my new password (I let someone come in on my password and like forgot what the hell the new one was)
Oh well!
My brother and I also wonder what the heck is going on that these crazy people that obviously belong to the right wing are doing here...Though I must say, I have not been able to access DU for quite some time and am working waaay too much to even worry about it.
I have access to the Freeper website, but don't have htge energy to do anything..
Anyways,.most of us pretty much just watch and don't post...

[pauliedangerously]

69. I'm a Newbie to this website, please help

I just did a Google search on Freeper...okay, wing nut. I read the rules and such before signing up, and I even sent in a donation.

Perhaps Skinner is unable to audit all of this stuff and depends on people reporting infiltrators?

Has anyone tried reporting suspects via [e-mail]?

Sorry if this sounds naive.

[KoKo]

58. funny...and true in your sarcasim.

:thumbsup:

[Scairp]

78. I agree

We need to stop discussing what the insane over yonder are yapping about. Who cares? Once in awhile, IF it is a particularly outrageous or important item that DU'ers should know about then I think it's okay, but it does seem as if every tenth thread begun here lately is something about what that eijits are saying, and I can't stomach them.

[movonne]

2. I agree.

[Must_B_Free]

26. ABsolutely not

Freepers as the athnesis of DUers have to be moniroted for the state of their dispositon in the psychological civil war that's going on in the country.

[TahitiNut]

47. They are but an echo off the porcelain of Bushturds hitting the water.

To speak of what they "think" is to discuss nothingness - an ephemeral illusion with less existential meaning than a fart in a windstorm.

[newsguyatl]

4. i agree

it almost gives them a level of feigned "importance"

and they or their views are NOT important to me.

i know sometimes, it's fun to laugh and shake your head in disgust, but i agree du posts way too many "look at this freeper's comments" "did you hear what fox news just said" "rush thinks this"... i'm like WHO CARES?!?

[MajorFlaw]

13. Well said.

n/t

[DenverDem]

5. It's mainly fascist repudlick slime coming over here to disrupt

by posting the babblings of their butt buddies over there. It's amazing how many freeptards have 1000 posts here. They are pretty transparent however and best dealt with throught ignoring them.

I've been loving the recent flood of single digit posters who post "non-partisan" hegiographic raygun apologisms and then whine that they are afraid they will be banned for their "innocent" opinions. Cowardly prevaricating slime and not surprising coming from the willfully ignorant volunteer slaves at felch repudlick.

[mountainvue]

11. One of them just

told me that Reagan appointed pro choice Justice Sutter.:eyes:

[Scairp]

79. Nope

Pappy Bush nominated Justice David Souter. Just proves once again that they don't know jack.

[pauliedangerously]

71. Which comes as no surprise

After all they want to know what's going on in our bedrooms...it only follows that they would want to peek inside our discussion boards...probably with a bottle of lotion and sticky keyboard.


GET ORWELL ROLLS IN HIS GRAVE from Buzzflash. Burn a copy and pass it on. Shatter the Illusion!!!

[RC]

6. I agree. DU is not some one's echo chamber.

You can read in the newspapers and see on TV and hear on the radio enough freeper BS, without dragging it in on your posts.

[mopaul]

22. don't ya love it when they call US mean spirited and hateful?

sure, some of us are, i wonder fucking why? they invented this shit, they wrote the nastiness rules, now we play by them.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

7. I agree and here's why

I have dealt with MANY a freeper on the internet and in real life. You know what they hate more than ANYTHING IN THE WORLD?

To be IGNORED.

Oh my God, it sends them into apocalyptic convulsions. They go postal. But there's nothing they can do and it drives them in-fricking-sane.

Watch (quietly, without saying anything over here) how fast they implode with ZERO attention from us and see if I'm not right.

[maggrwaggr]

17. and also, frankly,

it makes those who obsess on the freepers kinda pathetic.

By illustration, I went over to Conservative Underground to check it out, and it seems to be a site mainly devoted to obsessing about Democratic Underground! And THAT seems, well, pathetic.

[mopaul]

23. I've used the piss on reagan's grave analogy quite effectively before

when dealing with assholes. it shuts them down, or makes them go away. try it sometime, and watch the fun. they are always stunned that a liberal can also say something nasty, WITHOUT BECOMING LIKE THEM

[QC]

8. Agreed.

We waste way too much time and energy obsessing over those people.

[Renew Deal]

9. What would the freepers think of this thread?

:evilgrin:

[pauliedangerously]

70. Presuppose anyone?

Your question is loaded, suggesting that they DO think. They don't.

:shrug:

Had to try the smilies feature. I LOVE it.

[mountainvue]

10. Unfortunately

they're here. Take a look at the sudden influx of new posters tonight.

[Sparkle]

12. Sometimes it's good to lurk over there.

One of those filthy maggots got a DUer fired yesterday.

[DBoon]

14. Didn't you ever have an ugly puss-ridden scag

that your couldn't stop picking at?

Well, looking at FR posts is pretty much the same thing.

[DenverDem]

15. an ugly puss-ridden scag that your couldn't stop picking at?

Sounds like some of my dates in the '80s.

(Yes, I knew what you meant.)

[FredScuttle]

16. A-fuckin-men

And while we're at it, how about a moratorium on threads that start "DRUDGE SAYS..."

[mopaul]

24. you make us all look bad. you're no better than them

here's what the freepers think of will pitt, look at what boortz is saying about mo, who the fuck fucking cares?

it's interesting to read that shit sometimes, but posting it here is silly

[FredScuttle]

36. That's priceless, mopaul...

coming from you....after all, your thread from last week's Reagasm is going to lose the election for Kerry, don't you know?

Seriously, I too could give a flying fuck what a knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing Freeper thinks of my or any other post on this board.

on edit: didn't notice this was my 666th post. Hail Satan!



http://www.churchofsatan.com/

[Fear]

50. ah another believer of God and Jesus Christ.......still haven't quite

understood why one would choose for Satan vs God. Without God no Satan.....why would anyone choose for evil? - please explain. (in regard to image by lib71)

[DenverDem]

54. It's called humor

but fascist repudlickans don't understand humor.

Ergo. . .

[Fear]

63. ?

[FredScuttle]

75. Living so literally must be awfully tough

Take a deep breath, gaze open-mouthed at my post number above, and ponder the context.


There you go

[Fear]

77. ehm yeah.....*whatever*

:freak:

[AgadorSparticus]

18. yes! thanks for bringing this up, maggr. it definitely needed to be said

[Jim Warren]

19. Thank you for saying it

I've felt that way for the 21/2 years I've been registered here. Never said anything, a lot of members with high post counts do it and I don't post much to begin with.

It sets up a false polemic that feeds itself. False because it places freeps on the same level, and the difference in the level of discourse
here MOST of the time is miles apart

[Selwynn]

20. I couldn't agree more.

[makhno]

25. Well said

As you rightly said, we all know how to find that shit on our own grown up self, thank you very much. No sense in giving up DU bandwidth to fascist propaganda, no matter how "amusing", "silly" or "disgusting" it may be. Let the brownshirts foot the bill.

[shanti]

27. i appreciate your post

and feel the exact same way! thank you!

[DemExpat]

28. I agree, maggrwaggr!

I have always been dismayed with the importance that some DUers regard Freeperville.

I would also like that site to be mentioned in passing, as a bi-line to some post, but not in the prominent position they are given here lately!

To me it degrades DU and what we hope to stand for.

IMHO.

:kick:

DemEx

[Kickin_Donkey]

29. I hear ya ...

When DUers make those threads, I think it's really childish, sort of playground game, like, "Susie, do YOU know what Marcie is saying about you?" It's an immature thing that most of us outgrew by age 10.

Most of the time it's glibly defended by saying that we needed to "know our enemies." There's some truth to it, or else how else at DU would we have known that a freeper ratted out that jazz announcer in Mobile, Alabama?

Some recon work needs to be done, but 90 percent of the "what the freepers are thinking" threads are just plain childish.

Frankly, I don't give a shit what the freepers are thinking. I come to DU to be amongst liberals.

[Piperay]

30. Agree

for me the problem is that when someone posts something about them here I read it because I just can't help but look. I could live the rest of my life though without ever having the need to hear or read a single thing about them in fact I would rather it be that way. I guess I need to curb my curiousity so that those who want to know what is going on with the freeps can have the freedom to read but I need to just skip it myself.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

31. Bush, Conservatives and Conservatism forum

There is a Bush, Conservatives and Conservatism forum where the Freepers-hearsay threads are relevant enough to be posted. I think they're inappropriate to be posted anywhere else.

[Selwynn]

44. I strongly agree.

[ClassWarrior]

48. That makes a lot of sense.

Why don't the moderators move those threads like they do so many others?

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

32. I get enough of them at another board I post at...dont need to go there

I post alot at Gaurdian Ulimited Talk. Tho a UK site, it has a sizeable contingent of freepers, so I dont need to go to Free Republic to know their opinions.

[LTR]

33. I like the freeper threads

It makes for good comedy.

And some of the stuff in GD gets pretty depressing. It's nice to stop and have a good laugh once in a while.

And I do mean once in a while.

I'd hate to see this place become like that neocon "Wannabe Underground" site where barely literate freepers actually have an entire forum where they do nothing but jerk off over every little insignificant thread on DU. There are some pretty serious losers over there. Just pathetic.

A good ol' freeper bashing thread is cool once in a while, just so long as the entire forum doesn't turn into it.

[LTR]

83. Just wanna give a shout-out to Wannabe Underground

Guess I got name-dropped over there. Heard they appreciate my work.

:hi:

Side note to the 'pretenders': No, I don't plan on posting over there. After all, you guys read DU more that your own wack-assed board. I'd get more of a response from you guys by posting here than over there.

[rumguy]

86. LOL - that is funny

And will get more of a response posting here...

The 'Wannabe Underground'...

[gpandas]

34. in what other ways do all these people wish to ...

censor postings on du?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

37. Fucking A. n/t

[Selwynn]

38. Blah blah blah

DU already has rules for posting. There are things you can and cannot post, and thats a good thing. Those who appreciate the rules call them tools to protect the majority who desire a certain kind of civility in the site they frequent. Those who don't scream censorship.

Having an opinion that people shouldn't flood DU with freeper posts is no different. You can whine about censorship all you want, but these forums aren't absolutely free and never have been nor should they be. There are rules here. I'm not necessarily asking for a rule that makes posting freeper threads a no no, but the fact that this is a regulated forum means that people have more than enough backing and justification for exhorting the community not to behave in certain ways.

[gpandas]

82. i have appreciation for the rules, never said anyone...

is not entitled to their opinion, did not scream, did not whine,never said forums are absolutely free or they should be. you are the one with the blah blah post which,if anything, is saying i don't have a right to call it as i see it. as you stated, there is no rule against freeper posts,so i believe an attempt to suppress them is a form of censorship. i said "i believe". there are a few types of posts that i am tired of also, so i simply do not read them. i would never have the temerity to suggest that i know better than others what should be posted on du. that's why there are rules and moderators. btw, it was the post that said the writer didn't want to have to click to hide threads that got me agitated in the first place. is that laziness personified or what? sorry i took so long to respond,i went out of town. "i may diagree with what you say, but i will defend...etc."

[Redleg]

35. Who cares what you want posted or not posted here at DU?

Some people like to post and read the Freeper threads. Sometimes I like to read them just to get my ire up. Sometimes I don't like to read them because I don't want to get pissed off.

[Selwynn]

39. Apparently, quite a few people care. :)

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

40. Try reading the f**king DU rules & regulations

Hope this f**king helps. Have a nice f**king day.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html

Do not post personal attacks or engage in name-calling against other members of this discussion board.

If you are going to disagree with someone, please stick to the message rather than the messenger. For example, if someone posts factually incorrect information, it is appropriate to say, "your facts are wrong," but it is not appropriate to say "you are a liar."

Do not publicly accuse another member of this message board of being a disruptor, troll, conservative, Republican, or FReeper. Do not try to come up with cute ways of skirting around the spirit of this rule. If you think someone is a disruptor, click the "Alert" link below their post so the moderators can deal with it. Unfortunately, it has become all too common for members of this message board to label anyone with a slightly different point of view as a disruptor. We disapprove of this behavior because its intent is to stifle discussion, enforce a particular "party line," and pre-emptively label a particular point of view as inappropriate or unwelcome. This makes thoughtful and open debate virtually impossible.

Democratic Underground is a "big tent" message board which welcomes a broad range of progressive opinions. As such, you are likely to disagree strongly with many of the comments you see expressed here. Please do not take these differences of opinion personally. The simple fact that someone disagrees with you does not give you the right to lash out and break the rules of this message board. A thick skin is usually required to participate on this or any message board.

[Selwynn]

43. So what?

Paragraph one and two and three are totally irrelevant to this. He's not disagreeing with one specific person, but with a trend of spending more time discussion the agenda of free republic than anything else. This happens all the time, and its not against any rule. I logged on last night to see SEVEN freeper threads on the first page. That's just pathetic.

The final paragraph, only makes his point: DU is supposedly a "big tent" message board - big tent for progressive opinions. Progressive. It is not "FreeperWatch.org" It's not "freebandwidthtoultraconservativeidiots.net" It's supposed to be a place where have our OWN agenda and ideas, not where we just sit around and bitch mock and gossip about other morons who are a total waste of time.

[SayitAintSo]

41. I see it as opposition research....

I don't want to go there all the time, but I am curious about thier reactions especially when 'their own guy' steps in it. I want to see some glimmer of hope that they have some standards, morals, character to express outrage at the failings of thier own leaders.


I keep hoping....

[KoKo]

59. Give it up. They will not change their minds. Some of us have them in

our families (close minded folks who need to be "told" what to think). If you can't change your own family member's minds why do you think you can change some people on a RW Message Board probably funded by Falwell/Scaife/Coors into thinking human beings who care about a civilized society.

If it's fun for you then go there. But, bringing their trash here only serves as disruption. :shrug:

[SayitAintSo]

62. Actually, my family IS starting to turn...

My Baby Brother (40:)) voted Bush and is now anti Bush. My father ( John Bircher) is having serious doubts about Bush. My sister - a congenital repug has just seen the light ... Pretty amazing.

It's possible ... never thought I would see it...

[Zomby Woof]

42. I have long agreed!

I get sick of FR pollution all over GD - hell, it even infects the Lounge. My ignore list grows evey day because of breathless morons feeling the need to keep tabs on those assholes. I love the hide-a-thread too, but it does get tiresome having to use both features 20 times before you can even navigate through the muck as it is.

We KNOW what they 'think' already - they are on TV, the radio, and in the papers every day spewing their spin. This includes the so-called journalists. So I don't buy this "we need to keep tabs on the enemy" bullshit. I think these people who post what is going on over there just enjoy torturing themselves. Fine, but don't expect us to share your enthusiasm.

Fuck FR and the idiots who must keep us updated on them and other RW sites. I come on DU to escape that shit! :nuke:

[Fear]

45. "if I wanted to know what you wanted, I'd f**king ASK YOU"

enough with the complaining

I don't CARE what you want, I don't want to know what you want, and if I did, I'd ask you, okay?

give me a break - it's important / good information from time to time, and it's good to have multiple viewpoints, and if you think it's irrelevant, hide the thread.

So if you don't like it, go somewhere else. Post it somewhere else, not here.

Good bye - ow, and I haven't asked you yet.

[pezcore64]

46. AMEN

right on!

[slackmaster]

49. Let me give you a HELL YEAH, maggrwaggr!

:toast:

[ClassWarrior]

51. Okay then, taking a cue from an earlier post...

...let's all take some responsibility, and ask the moderators to move any freeper posts that appear to the "Bush, Conservatives, and Conservatism" forum. That way the people who see them as "opposition research" can find them, and the rest of us don't have to pollute our beautiful minds.

[ClassWarrior]

52. Oh sure.

I post and the thread drops like a f**king lead balloon. Sorry for ruining the pointless-bitch-fest with an actual practical suggestion.

[ContinentalOp]

57. I agree.

I've been thinking about the need for a separate place to move those posts but the Bush, & Conservatives forum would be perfect. I would love to see all of the "A freeper said this..." and "Some talking head said this" posts moved there. I'm also annoyed at headlines that say things like "Why do liberals hate America" and then the message is "help me debunk this myth" but the headline stays in GD all day.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

64. I support your suggestion n/t

[ClassWarrior]

68. Thanks.

I've finally had my morning shower. I feel better now.

[Bonhomme Richard]

55. Freepers are irrelevant now. Forget about them.

They are no more relevant than people with six toes. (not meant to be a slam against people with six toes)

[John_Shadows_1]

56. Know thine enemy,....

... but you're right, he's not to hard to figure out - maybe the freeper threads should be saved for special occasions of idiocy.

[Walt Starr]

60. Shit they post enough of their racist shit HERE

why would we ever need to go there when we have plenty of them posting racist crap over here?

:shrug:

[sendero]

65. As soon as a freeper demonstrates..

... the ability to think, maybe I'll give a rat's ass what they think.

I'm not holding my breath.

[kaitykaity]

66. I actually LIKE some of the FReeper threads.

I think it's funny to see them foaming at the mouth.

Also, it gives me a heads up as to what my favorite
wacknut is going to send me that day.

:evilgrin:

[onecitizen]

67. Thank-you maggrwaggr!!

Don't know 'em, don't WANNA know 'em!

[Judi Lynn]

72. I come here specifically to read what DEMOCRATS are thinking

as it's not important what the right-wing "thinks." They DON'T think, or they wouldn't be right-wingers.

Posting Freeper garbage takes up space where Democrats want to read Democratic topics and Democratic opinions, and Democratic input.

You're 100% right: Anyone wanting to read Republican perspective can surely go to message boards at the NY Times and the Washington Post, Yahoo, etc., etc.

Rightwingers are NOT interesting. They are weak-minded and slow. They are destructive. They have nothing to offer, nothing of interest.

[western mass]

73. Hear hear!

[gristy]

74. I agree completely

When I see someone linking a freeper thread in a post, I usually challenge them as to why they are doing this. As others have said, DU is best served by collectively ignoring them. If individuals wish to see what they think, they of course can go over and look themselves.

[TryingToWarnYou]

76. Agree! Suggestion...

Maybe there needs to be a special section for those threads so that they dont pollute up the other areas?

I dont know about you, but I avoid the Freeper stuff because its just so neanderthal and disturbing. Why anyone would want to repost that crap here is beyond me. If you want to show what the Freeps are saying, just post a link or get a website for it all.

[skip fox]

80. Bit restrictive. Cost of liberty is eternal . . . Well, you know.

The first step in opposing those who would restrict our freedoms and force their repressive narrative upon the world is to be aware of them. As fully as possible.

(Perhaps in history our age may become known as the Age of the Imperative. Everyone feels they not only have a right but a duty to tell everyone else what to do, how to feel, etc. They blare it from every bumpersticker, on every talk show, in every barbershop. At DU there's usually a bit more tolerance.)

[TrogL]

81. I am unrepentent at posting Freeper shit

They just recently got someone fired. It's not their first attempt by a long shot.

They have to be watched and watched closely and people need their complacency rocked every once in awhile (or often for that matter).

These people are dangerous.

[KittyWampus]

84. Kind Of Agree With You... But This Is An Open Forum

:shrug:

[Digit]

85. I agree, maggrwaggr!

It was appearing to be cloaked propaganda, anyway.

[rumguy]

87. Like moths to the flame we are drawn to freeper insanity...

Human nature I guess...

[Spider Jerusalem]

88. Agreed. And besides, they DON'T think.

They are not CAPABLE of thinking. Want to know what they "think"? Listen to Meal Boortz, Sean Hannity, or Rush Limbaugh. The supposed "thoughts" of those scumsucking shite-brained fascist twats are merely tiresome repetition of whatever talk radio has put into their heads. They lack the intellectual capacity required for original or complex thought, and their vomitous spewings are beneath concern OR contempt.