Bush supporters

[EstimatedProphet]

It is my firm belief that, after all that has come out in the last year, anyone still supporting Bush is either willfully stupid or evil and meanspirited. I simply can't believe that anyone else is left that falls into the Bush camp that isn't either 1) simply plugging up their ears and screaming LALALALALA at the top of their lungs every time more news about Bush's scandals come out, or 2) gloating about how we Murikans is better than them furriners anyways, so they don't deserve to be treated like real people. Is it even possible that there are other Bush supporter types? What does this say about the US?
I admit this is a rant. I'm fed up. sorry.

[wuushew]

1. Do you mean supporter or voter?

People claim to support a lot of things, but seldom put their money where there mouth is.

I only worry about people in swing states who intend on committing the sin of voting for * come November.

[Warpy]

2. Usually, when people cling to things

that a long list of factual information tells them to abandon, they're in one of three categories: corrupt, stupid, or insane. However, with Bush supporters, we do have a fourth category: uninfomred/misinformed/disinformed. Don't unerestimate the power of the right wing propaganda machine. People who aren't news junkies and digging for things online are relying on televised news, if they even rely on that much, and those old boys are not about to upset their corporate masters by telling the truth about Bush.

The one thing that does seem to be getting through the right wing bafflegab is the fact that Iraq is a cluster*, and that Bush's team is to blame.

Let's hope it's enough.

[Cleita]

14. Er, don't forget the religious card. So many people won't even

fart unless their minister tells them to. If they are told Bush is appointed by God to be President of the United States and they must vote for him, no matter how many of the children come home in body bags, because it's God's will, then they will vote for him.

[Mojambo]

3. Never underestimate a persons ability to rationalize greed.

Taxcut, taxcut, taxcut, taxcut, tax cut...

[laura888]

13. But can any rational person say "I don't mind torture as long as I...

...get a taxcut?"

This is truly the sign of an extremely selfish nature.

[Mojambo]

17. Agreed.

Selfishness is a big trait of the ultra-conservative.

[No Mandate Here.]

4. Rants are good - and healthy.

It is my fervent hope that we see just how few * supporters/ voters there are in November. In the meantime, we can keep on converting. I think I am up to four or five. Let's keep going!

[Booster]

5. Answer is both 1& 2 and

they know they were so vile to Clinton they can't possibly turn on one of their own and admit they just might have been wrong. I have a feeling come election time and they are alone in the voting booth, we may see that a few have been blowing smoke up our ass about how they really feel. And it really wouldn't have mattered if Clinton was the one in their WH or not, any Democrat would have faced the same ugliness. They want to win, plain and simple.

[Taverner]

6. I agree, but mind control cults are hard to work against in a grand scale

Reverend Sun Yung Moon is a good friend of the Bush family (this is documented in MANY reliable places, so I'm not going to link.)

So it is no surprise that so many Bush* supporters march in lockstep, not thinking or questioning. Moon taught the Bush campaign how to do this on a national level!

[ewagner]

7. I think it's something else

I think it has to do with the inability to abandon or disassociate a person from a belief system. Remember that a lot of Conservatives are conservative for a single issue (e.g. pro-life, lower taxes, nationalistic/patriotic stubbornness, anti-government, anti-gay, etc.) No matter how corrupt the standard bearer, they still have to support the person who embodies their single, myopic vision.

And really, what choice do they have? Do you think the strident, pro-lifers will ever abandon Bush* for Kerry? No matter how corrupt Bush is exposed to be, they will be in his corner until or unless he abandons them.

[Hoping4Change]

8. "Fuck the Democrats. Fuck the liberals. I hope Bush wins."

You make an interesting point about single vision. However there is another side that doesn't get discussed, namely. "Spite wins vote."

http://www.nypress.com/17/23/news&columns/MarkAmes.cfm

[ewagner]

10. Oversight

I should have probably included "Spite" as one of the "single issues".

Thanks.

[EstimatedProphet]

12. This article brings up some very good points

some points that have been in the back of my mind for a long time, and in part why I started this thread. Such as: what if the average American actually is a Freeper? What if the average Joe supported Iraq, and still does, because he really does get off on the idea of napalming brown people, and it makes him all hard and sweaty? What then for the US? Because if that's really the heart of America then I don't want to be part of it.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

19. Personally, I think a third to a half, maybe more, are Freepers.

..depending where you live.

Sure, FTF people are polite to one another, but with the anonymity online, and in the privacy of the polling booth, you see what people really think.

[mvd]

9. I know people who..

are Bush supporters just because he's a "Christian" like they are. What a laugh.

[EstimatedProphet]

11. You should ask them...

If he's Christian like they are then are they hypocritical fakers?

[Whalersfan1]

15. I have a lot of conservative Republican friends....

We discuss politics all the time. Reasons they like Bush (I should know them - I've heard them enough).

Tax cuts- Love em - want more. Government social programs don't work blah blah ....
War on terror- what were we doing Sept 10th? Nothing in their eyes. Fuck the french and their "goodwill".

other reasons-

The democratic party has nothing to offer them in their eyes. They work, have health insurance....

[doni_georgia]

16. All the Bush supporters I know get ALL their news from Faux

They have been so inundated with misinformation that there's no reaching them. My best friend called the other night. Her neighbors were over and they were having a Bush love-in. My friend couldn't stand it, so she called me to get counters to their arguments. Told her to start with the outing of Valerie Plame. Her freeptard moran neighbor said, "So what? That's not illegal! It's not like he got a blow job in the White House!" He was screaming so loud I could hear every word. I told her to tell him that outing a covert CIA oeprative is against the law - and told her the law to cite (1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act). He started screaming again that Bush was the President and that those kind of laws didn't apply to him, he could fire anyone and out anyone - "goddammit cause he's the president!" I then said, okay, let's move to Abu Ghraib - Bush decided that the Geneva Convention didn't apply to terrorists, and someone high up in the administration (if not Bush himself) decided that ruling would apply to Iraq as well. In addition, he decided as President he could change the rules on torture. The guy started screaming again, "Damn right - he can change any rules he wants - he's the president!" Then he went off on CLinton and Monica again and how Democrats disgraced the White House and America.

OMG if this guy is indicative of most Bush supporters they are a bunch of fucking idiots! Worse thing is that they REALLY believe Bush can do whatever he wants - the law does not apply to him. Scary as hell - their view of America really lines up with Nazi Germany - Siech Heil~!

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

20. yeah thats about right...dont want to hear it, so shout you down.

Who cares whats true or not...they vote their prejudices....and go into shouting denial when you deal with facts. Facts are irrelevant to them.

[EstimatedProphet]

21. That sounds just like the majority of people here

Which is no great surprise, since I also am in Georgia. At least Atlanta isn't uniformly Freeper...

[kymar57]

18. LALALALALA

These freeps at work consistently repeat the pig boy's mantra "up is down, black is white, economy up unemployment down(even though these idiots know we are scheduled to be "downsized" in 12 months.)

Freedom good Patriot Act better,Osama bad Osama don't matter........ etc etc

[bobbieinok]

22. W is a conservative 'christian' chosen by 'god'

anything they hear or read vs W is anti-'christian'

they say, 'sure FOX is to the right, but CNN and all the other networks are liberal'