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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:10 PM
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HILLARY just shreaded ENRON on ABC
They are out of power there but Secret Service concerns give her some power.

This is from memory.

She started out,of course, speaking on the concerns of public health and so forth. Then she just flat out went off.

~"We will investigate how this could have happened"

~"We know that power companies including ENRON purposely and directly created shortages in California.......We have to make sure that in this age of privatization we will have dependable sources of energy."

~"This could clearly...this is a part of ........the source of the problems that California is now facing."

I expedcted her to be more diplomatic but she clearly was on the attack.

Hell yeah GO HILLARY!
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:15 PM
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1. Is she in Chappaqua now?
At about 6:30 she was interviewed on CNN and she was trying to exit the city.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:17 PM
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3. YES
I don't know how she got out so fast (Secret Service doesn't hurt as it shouldn't)

She went off so fast it was hard to remember what she said.

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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:17 PM
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2. Good for Hillary.
Time for our so-called leaders to start telling some truth. Every single one of the opponents of the current administration should stop cowering in the dark and tell the truth to the sleeping people of this country.

I agree with another poster in this thread. SO many bad things have happened since Shrub stole power. It's got to be bad karma for letting these evildoers steal our election in 2000.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:19 PM
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5. It seeems to help when you have no fear and know you are right
TennesseeWalker Welcome to DU :hi:

Great screen name. Horse people?
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:43 PM
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10. Yeppers
But they're all Appaloosas and Quarter Horses...and I have eight...way too many, but I love 'em. No walking horses yet, but looks like we may need them if our power grids go out for good! ;)
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:56 AM
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15. Had a horse once whose breeding
I did not know, but that horse had the walking gait of a Tennessee Walker. Lovely - so smooth it was like sitting in a luxury car.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:18 PM
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4. she's supposed to be on The Daily Show
tonight. hope they were able to do it.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:20 PM
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6. I think they tape at 5:30
so I would doubt it.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:21 PM
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7. Look at the three deregulated industries:
Energy. Airlines. Telecommunications. All three have, since deregulation, become dismal failures, financially, ethically and legally. Consider that the fourth semi-deregulated industry is the Financial industry. That is reeling from indictments and lawsuits, not to mention a 600+ to 1 exposure in derivatives, when any sane economist will tell you that maximum exposure is 36 to 1.

Those regulations were put in place for a very good reason: the baseline negative human impulse is greed. Just about every other negative motivator arises from it. Few people can be expected to make a sucessful stand against the impulses of greed without support. The laws existed to give people and corporations an impetus to mitigate their greedy impulses for the good of civil society.

The neo-cons know what they are doing with all this privatization and deregulation: They are killing civil society based upon a representative democracy in this nation. What will be left, should they be successful, will be what future historians will call "The New Feudalism".
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:33 PM
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8. Great QUOTE from "Big Lies" by Joe Conason
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 07:34 PM by underpants
Are you ready for this?

Oh and BTW I don't remember your screenname but you write over my head. Anyway:

July 16, 2002 Senate Banking Committee


"Until very recently, he explained, he had assumed that market forces alone would discipline the major accounting firms and corporate management. He had believed that 'regulation by government was utterly unneccesary and, indeed, most inappropriate'"

Then he said: "I was wrong"

page 147

Alan had met Ayn Rand in her Manhattan apartment, a true believer.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 09:09 AM
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16. That was an Alan Greenspan quote
I didn't put that in there. :spank:
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:23 AM
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12. Amazing post....
This is probably the smartest response I've ever seen here. This is an amazing talking point, and our candidates need to pick it up and run with it.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 09:18 AM
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17. Good Catch TS.
Any cogent, and unbiased, analysis of deregulation shows that companies do NOT benefit from it, and neither do consumers.

One of the canards routinely trotted it is the lower ticket prices benefitting consumers in airfares. That's patently false. As a frequent flyer, i can tell you, without fear of contradiction, that the lower prices are the result of dramatic cuts in services provided the traveler.

Lower on-time performance, lesser in-flight services (excepting flights off the continent), longer boarding times, longer deplaning times, higher ticket processing fees, more self check-ins (they promote this as a "service" to the customer).

Deregulation, and the attendant competition created are not the causes of lower ticket prices. We are just getting less by paying less. Dereg has nothing to do with it.

The same is provably true in telecommunications, cable television, and utilities.

Tandalayo is correct. There isn't one measurable and provable success from the wave of deregulation that began in the 80's. For anyone to say so is either a display of ignorance or an outright lie.
The Professor
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 07:38 PM
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9. Give em hell Hillary!
The RWers friends in the energy industry have been gouging us for years now. First it was gasoline, then we had the electricity crisis in Californis, now we have an impending natural gas "shortage" scheduled for next winter, so THEY can jack their prices up and get in on some of the fun.
I really do think it is time for Americans to WAKE UP! The RWers and their friends are pulling money from our pockets at every available opportunity. It's as if the parents are out for the night, and the kids are raiding the cookie jar.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:20 AM
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11. NPR this morning- Canadians say it started in US .......
and the US companies were throwing out all kinds of EXCUSES (lightning strikes/fire/???)

No one knows for sure yet which makes W's "calming of the nation" last night even dumber.
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EV1Ltimm Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:26 AM
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13. i move that we call hillary "hellyeah" from now on.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:48 AM
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14. As if HellYeah Hillary was not one of my favorites in politics,
Hillary's responses to the blackout last night has further elevated her in my view of politics. She has been at once caring, about how the blackout was affecting people, and on the par path, demanding answers. I say to Hillary, "YOU GO GIRL!!"
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