Another company to add to my "shit list."

[fudge stripe cookays]

Last night I was watching a show on...I think it was A & E about baby boomers--their likes, dislikes, the dynamics of how they affected politics, advertising, etc.

The CEO, DeJoria, must be a major league Repug, because when it came to politics, I heard him say "George W. Bush is a GREAT man. He did blah blah blah...." That's kind of where my audio disconnect shut him down. That was all I needed to hear.

There is no more Awapuhi shampoo in my future. I'm surprised too. According to this site:
http://www.hoovers.com/john-paul-mitchell/--ID__47646--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml

"John Paul Mitchell was founded in Hawaii in 1980 by John Paul "J. P." DeJoria and the late Paul Mitchell. Chairman and CEO DeJoria, a former gang member who sports a black ponytail and beard (and is seen in company TV commercials), is a vocal supporter for consumer-product safety." (and Repugs!) my addition

Paul Mitchell Systems
9701 Wilshire Blvd., Ste. 1205
Beverly Hills, CA 90212 (Map)
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
http://www.paulmitchell.com

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[meegbear]

1. He's been a vocal supporter of repugs for years ...

no new news.

[fudge stripe cookays]

2. News to me...

and news to my spending habits. I'm spreading the word to others who may NOT know. Unlike yourself.

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[xxqqqzme]

3. good 2 know

even though I stopped buying PM products years ago.

[checks-n-balances]

4. Can you share your entire list with those of us who need to add to ours?

Thanks!

[fudge stripe cookays]

5. Let me think...

It's mostly a mental list, and has just become so part of my being that I don't know if I can remember all of them, but here goes:

* Wal-Mart (Repug donor, and numerous other reasons)
* Home Depot (HEAVY Repug donor)
* Curves (owned by pro-lifers)
* Domino's (Repug donor- used to be pro-life, now just Repug)
* Anheuser Busch (Repug donor)
* Hallmark (Repug donor)
* The Limited (Repug donor, and their clothes are cheaply made)
* Extended Stay (hotels)
* Enterprise Rent a Car
* Exxon
* Chik-Fil-A (owned by fundies, closed on Sunday)
* Cracker Barrel (anti-gay)
* I try not to patronize those grocery stores that were involved in the strike in California, but it's not always possible--almost all groceries have Repub ties except for places like Whole Foods or Central Market (Albertson's, Ralph's, Safeway, Randall's, Tom Thumb)
* Bacardi (DeLay buddy)
* Fuddrucker’s, nationwide - (changing French fries in all restaurants to “freedom fries”)
* General Electric - (arms manufacturer)
* Rudy’s Bar-B-Q, Austin – (promotes dumping French wine)

Here's a bunch more:
http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/magazine/corpwatch/boycottbush.pdf

[bryant69]

7. Chik-Fil-A?

If they chose to close on Sunday what does that have to do with you? I try to avoid shopping on the Sabbath myself, does that make me a fundie?

Maybe you got other reasons (ones that actually make sense) but if you are going to boycott companies just because the owners are religious, well, I won't be supporting that.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[fudge stripe cookays]

8. Sorry, but any company...

that mentions God in their mission statement creeps me out.

I'm sick of dogma. I was raised Catholic. I'm now happily agnostic. I don't judge others for their religion, but I also don't shop at companies that push their religion in your face by listing it in their mission statement. If you love God, great. Show it by being a decent businessman, be honest and forthright and inspire loyalty in your customers. Don't shove your religion down my throat. I hate it.

I add Interstate Batteries to the list for that reason.

[elfwitch]

14. I fully agree with you...

I figure the only time I should know anything about what the religious affiliation of the company happens to be is when the business of the business is religion. Judaica shops and Christian bookstores kinda have to tell you what religion they are so you know you are shopping in the correct place.

I don't care to know that the place I'm buying tires or a burger at is Christian or whatever. It puts me off immediately because from my standpoint it implies that you should do business with them solely on the fact that they are "good Christians".

Keep that shit to yourself.

[bryant69]

25. Well, I have to say I disagree

I mean I agree that you shouldn't go there if it makes you feel uncomfortable. There's a record shop that specializes strictly in obscure punk and death metal bands I've been to once or twice; but wouldn't go back to for the same reason (i.e. I felt uncomfortable there).

But I have to say that's not really what this sounds like; it sounds more like "Good liberals won't eat at Chick-Fil-A" because they are openly Christian. How is that any different than a Freeper saying "Good conservatives won't buy Ben and Jerry's because they are liberal."

And while I agree that their food is crap, all fast food is crap and if you think it isn't you are deluding yourself. But out of that select pool of crap, the food is reasonably good, in my opinion.

[elfwitch]

26. No I said...

I don't frequent businesses like that because I don't feel it is right for me. I let people make up their own minds. I don't care where you shop and for what reasons. You can spend you money any way you want to.

I don't spend my money at places like that or at WalMart or Dominoes or etc. because I will not give places like that my hard earned dollars.

I would never disparage or denigrate anyone, liberal or conservative, for where they shop. It's your money. You could stick it in your ears and run around naked shouting I'm a bluebird and I wouldn't care. It's your life and it's your money. Do with it as you please.

[bryant69]

28. I'm sorry if I misread you

It is hard to seperate out different opinions when they are all presented, if that makes any sense.

There are, of course, people at this website who do have an opinion on where good liberals should shop, but I'm glad to see you are not one of them.

[elfwitch]

29. I'm pretty much Pro-Choice on EVERYTHING...

I think people should have the freedom to choose what they choose to choose. As long as their choices don't physically hurt anyone else, it matters not to me what they decide to spend their time or money doing. I expect the same level of respect from people on my choices. And I really don't like it when people decide they have the right to make those choices FOR me.

[fudge stripe cookays]

37. Someone asked me what MY list was.

That's MY list.

I never said anyone had to agreee, merely provided it for some folks to get ideas from.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

42. And I'm very grateful to you -- especially about GE

I will stop buying stuff from them. And yes, I'm announcing that out loud just to piss off people. :evilgrin:

[gulfcoastliberal]

19. Plus their food sucks ass...nt

[checks-n-balances]

31. Thanks for all the info. The main thing I'm watching for is businesses

who support the GOP. I respectfully disagree with boycotting businesses who may mention religion or be closed on Sunday, but I understand the sentiments of those who feel otherwise for good reasons.

On the other hand, if a business mentions religion AND supports the GOP, then I have a REAL problem with them & will boycott.

Thanks again!

[gpandas]

10. and the shit list grows "under god"

[IronLionZion]

11. I'd like to add Coors to that list

radical right wing company and quite racist too. Pete Coors is running for Senate in Colorado.

[Bluzmann57]

16. Coors is a bad company

Many years ago the AFL-CIO organized an all out boycott against Coors brewery because of the shabby way they treated employees, such as firing them without due process, forcing employees to take lie detector test for no good reason, etc. They no longer do that, and the Unions called off the boycott, but many of us still are not forgetting about that and still don't buy Coors products. They stopped those practices but went down kicking and screaming and still does not to work with Organized Labor. And if Pete Coors wins, there is a real good chance that they will reinstate all of these practices, and more, via legislation. So Coors should be on the boycott list in perpetuity, or at least until they want to treat employees like humans and work with Unions, instead of trying to destroy them.

[Dorian Gray]

43. Re: Coors

I thought that I read years ago that they were staunch supporters of appartheid in South Africa.

I don't buy any of their products, but that's because their beer is like piss water.

[fudge stripe cookays]

17. Yep I forgot Coors

(other than the fact that their beer is swill...)

In Brock's first book, he mentioned the fact that they'd all have get-togethers and Holly Coors would provide the free beer.

Yechhh.

[elfwitch]

13. Add Hobby Lobby for the same reason as Chik-Fil-A

The hours of operation on their door says "Closed Sunday for Family and Worship".

I don't go to places like this either. I figure if you want to worship keep it to yourselves. Some of us can only get shopping done on Sunday. And I worship from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday. The assumption that EVERYBODY worships on Sunday is repellent to me.

[fudge stripe cookays]

20. Yep, forgot them too.

I prefer Michael's anyway. It used to be nothing for me but the SUPER MJDesigns at Preston and Forest. It killed me when they closed that place.

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[elfwitch]

21. I went there too...

The JoAnnes there isn't too bad. For the stuff I really need I go to Aesels Art Supplies. The Prisma Colors at Michael's are too pricey.

I don't go to Central Market, but not for political reasons. I'm from South Texas where they have real H.E.Bs. Central Market is too snooty and typical Dallas like for me. I'd much rather have a regular HEB in my area. I didn't go to Central Market when I lived in San Antonio either.

[fudge stripe cookays]

23. I can't help it.

I love to cook, and that place is like Disneyland for adventurous gals like me. I think of cookbooks the way armchair travelers think of travel guides.

I'm from Austin, so I was an HEB shopper as well, but I love Whole Foods AND Central Market. If there was a Trader Joe's here, I'd go there too.

And I TRY not to be snooty, but sometimes can't help it. What the heck am I doing on this board with you paeons, anyway?

:evilgrin:

[pstokely]

44. Hobby Lobby gave a building to Falwell

nt

[spooky3]

24. Thanks--ps, Limited head Wexner's political contributions

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=OH&last=wexner&first=leslie

[terrya]

27. Oh, no. I rent from Enterprise Rent-A-Car all the time.

Their rates are excellent. How Republican are they?

Oh, well. There's always Hertz and Avis.

[fudge stripe cookays]

36. I USED to.

Try Dollar.

We've had excellent luck with them so far, and they have even BETTER rates!

:-)

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

40. Good! There's some there I can boycott too!

Domino's (I ALWAYS buy pizza from Brazilian-owned places, there's no shortage of them)
Bacardi (Oh well, one can live without Martinis)
GE (I'll take special pleasure in buying lightbulbs from other manufacturers. Maybe I'll mention the arms thing to other customers at the supermarket too)

Edit: Anheuser-Busch too. No need to buy Budweiser when there's lots of nice Brazilian beer brands.

[PatGund]

45. I think Fuddruckers may be a mistake.....

" Fuddrucker’s, nationwide - (changing French fries in all restaurants to “freedom fries”)"

Ummm, been eating at Fuddruckers a *LONG* time, and I've never seen them referred to as "Freedom Fries". Or even "French Fries". Usually, they call them "Fudd Fries".

Even now, if you check their menu out, they're called "Fudd Fries".

http://fuddruckers.com/menu.html

Sorry, this one I have to seriously doubt, as I've never seen it at any of the Fuddruckers in California, and I eat there about once a month or so.

[curlyred]

6. Sally Beauty sells PM knockoffs

I use several of them and they are quite good. May be this would be an alternative for you.

[fudge stripe cookays]

9. Thanks.

It's no big deal, asI haven't used any for awhile, but every once in awhile I pick up a bottle. Not anymore. Knockoffs work!

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[Mayberry Machiavelli]

12. fsc, your avatar pic looks like "Ashley" (Bruce Campbell) from the

original Evil Dead movie. Is it? (sorry for minor thread diversion)

[fudge stripe cookays]

18. Yep!

Now gimme some sugar, baby.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

22. You got it. We must have watched this movie 100's of times in college.

Too much fun...
:hug:

"We can't bury Shelly. She's a friend of ours!"

[OKNancy]

15. Look at this -

I realize that Mardel's is a Christian store, but when I got this flyer in the Sunday paper, I couldn't believe it.

Sorry this is a pdf, but the web page is so small, you can't get the full effect:
http://www.mardel.com/site1/specials/25a1.pdf

T-shirt says" There is something about god and country....without wise leadership it can't run ( or something, I can't make out the last part, and I don't have the paper from yesterday)

[eleny]

30. What about Lowe's?

There's one opening in a huge retail space near us that K-Mart vacated.

[checks-n-balances]

32. I really hope not, since they're the only other home store besides Home

Depot (or even Wal-Mart). I'll shop at Lowe's until I hear otherwise!

[eleny]

33. Since Lowe's will be 5 minutes away

I hope it's a "good" store, too.

[fudge stripe cookays]

38. I'm with you.

I'm still going to Lowe's until I hear otherwise.

But there are also always local businesses like True Value and Ace Hardware to support.

Local small garden centers, and paint places like Sherwin Williams or Benjamin Moore are also options. I haven't heard anything about them. I always try to go to our local garden centers first before I buy at Lowe's unless I'm picking up a bunch of hardware items too.

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[eleny]

41. Us too

We have an Ace up the street and some family owned garden centers that we've shopped at for as long as they've been around. Hubby just got home from Ace! But for plywood and stuff like that, we'll go to Lowe's until otherwise informed.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

34. On the flip side of this, if you have a Sonic near you

and you like that kind of food, please frequent it. They are one of the rare companies that give 100% of their donations to Dems.

opensecrets.org

[fudge stripe cookays]

39. Ooh! Thanks sweetie.

Did not know this.

I have to get on opensecrets more often, dammit.

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[theoceansnerves]

35. i agree with the list except

the stuff about stores being closed on sunday. having lived in germany for six years where the law requires stores to close before 6pm and to be closed completely on sundays, stuff like that doesn't bother me.

[Kellanved]

46. well, the law got changed

On Sundays most stores still have to stay closed, but stores at train stations (and Airports) and small stores with clever owners can circumvent the law. Hence many stations feature real shopping malls, drawing more people than the station itself.
On the other six days stores are allowed to stay open till 8PM (with the above exceptions, of course).