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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:08 PM
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Anyone catch Gerald Posner on Countdown?
I imagine he has been thoroughly discussed here but I seemed to have missed it. He seems to be really on the ball and is taking the FBI to task. His book is Why America Slept.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:10 PM
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1. I don't trust a thing he says after Case Closed
plus, he LOOKS like a lunatic

that said, he does have some good points on this

taping it.....will watch later
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:16 PM
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2. Hmm, well I think YOU look like a lunatic too
Just kidding, obviously -- I don't know what you look like. My point is, isn't it a little, um, limiting to judge someone on their looks -- esp. someone who actually looks perfectly normal? or at least I thought he did. But then maybe I look like a lunatic to YOU. :spank:
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:32 PM
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6. Posner's work is a mixed bag ...
But he, too, is not above cherry picking things out of context and employing a whole battery of bullshit rhetorical tricks to "prove" whatever point he is making. Case Closed is an excellent study in how to jump to conclusions.
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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:17 PM
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3. he pissed me off, they ALL intertwine SHOOT DOWN orders
with standard intercept procedures. They have to do that on purpose. There is no way he doesn't know the distinction.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:18 PM
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4. I noticed that as well. Why do you say
"they have to do that on purpose"
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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 07:31 PM
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5. Because I cannot come up with another reason why everyone,
including Peter Jennings, covers the NORAD portion of 9/11 in such a misleading way. If you didn't know about intercept procedures you would not know that they were different than shoot down orders. There is no way these professionals are getting the same part of the story wrong (or at least, incomplete), every single time this aspect is discussed. See what I'm saying? If you were discussing NORAD would you know enough to talk about intercept procedures and shoot down orders?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:35 PM
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7. I'm not 100 % sure I follow
but I sense you're on to something. Its these little details that will provide the nails for this administration's coffin
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:37 PM
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8. I've seen Posner on a number of different shows
bakj when i could still watch them and he's been debunked by just about everyone. If his stuff had any real value it would have picked up way more traction by the right slanting main stream media.
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 08:44 PM
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9. My rash judgement
Posner is a tool.

"Case open"
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