Bush may actually be eligible for death penalty for torture directive.

[ElementaryPenguin]

Impeachment? According to the War Crimes Act of 1996, anyone (including presidents) authorizing or engaging in torture is guilty of a felony...and if the subject of the torture dies (as we know that many have)...those held accountable could face the death penalty. Assuming every last copy of it hasn't already hit the shredder, someday, the George W. Bush presidential directive authorizing the use of torture, may well be one of the most well remembered documents in our national archives.

No wonder he's talking to an outside criminal defense lawyer and he's gotten so crabby lately! Chimpy's got far bigger issues than merely campaigning for re-selection.

:shrug:

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vphol163851676jun16,0,5148566.story

[livetohike]

1. Ashcroft refused to hand over documents

to the Senate. So what is the next step? Sounds as if he is hiding something. :shrug:

[ElementaryPenguin]

7. Dems have to force a contempt of Congress charge be made against ASS

Ashcroft never denied the existence of this directive - and it is very clear that Rumsfeld and his gang of hoodlums were using Chimpy's directive for cover!

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[Catshrink]

3. What goes around comes around...

he'll meet Carla Faye Tucker as he whines "please don't kill me!"

[ElementaryPenguin]

28. That was amazingly sick.

:puke:

[treepig]

34. we can only hope . . .

perhaps he can get a taste of he own medicine

In Texas, the call for reform has been deflected by state officials' aggressive defense of the Texas system. Repeatedly, Governor Bush and others have defended the administration of the death penalty. Texas Attorney General John Cornyn has gone so far as to describe the death penalty in Texas as "a model for the nation."

This report challenges that confident assessment. To show why Texas justice is not a model for anyone, we have undertaken a preliminary examination of the Texas death penalty system. We have conducted original research into the discriminatory charging practices of Texas prosecutors. We studied hundreds of cases, including every published decision (and many unpublished decisions) of the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals in capital cases in the modern death penalty era. We examined over half of the capital post-conviction appeals filed in Texas since 1995 - a stage of the appeals that has never before been systematically scrutinized - and we evaluated treatment given to those appeals by the state courts.

In this Report, we explain and lay bare many disturbing features of a thoroughly flawed system.

more . . .

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=19&did=221

[ElementaryPenguin]

35. Bush's prosecution would be a model for the world!

Torture, preemptive war - these illegal acts will NOT be tolerated!

[Bjornsdotter]

50. You Beat Me to It

Hi,

That was my first thought also....would he whine again in high pitched voice?

Cheers,
Kim

[lovedems]

4. God. Talk about text book definition Karma.

I wonder if he is thinking about all of the death warrants he signed as governor in between his naps?

[ElementaryPenguin]

9. How 'bout when he mocked that women on death row -

I've forgotten her name.

[lovedems]

18. Was it the female serial Killer Aileen Warnos?

That was the first person that came to mind.

On edit: I see alot of people refering to Carla Faye Tucker. Maybe it was her?

[NewJeffCT]

31. I think it was Karla Faye Tucker

Not sure, but I think even Robertson or Falwell asked Bush to pardon her and he turned them down.

[SOS]

48. It was Tucker

Bush mocked her shortly before her execution. I think that's the definition of "compassionate conservative".

[sui generis]

5. I say let the sumbitch fry

oh, and I think we should all stand around and remind his Royal Compassionate Conservativeness about Karla Faye Tucker when he's begging for clemency.

It's not just for torture. It's for sacrificing the lives of nearly 900 dutiful idealistic brothers and sisters and parents and children of our nation to secure oil leases for Haliburton. It's for murdering 10,000 Iraqi civilians as collateral damage and sleeping soundly at night. He is a monster who should go right into the history books with every other despot we warn our children about.

[ElementaryPenguin]

16. Excellent post, sg!

It really isn't just the awful torture - it's the cold blooded murdering!

:puke:

[methinks2]

6. from their lips to God's ear.

[tom_paine]

8. Though Bush would MURDER THOUSANDS MORE before that happened

I would love to see it.

I agree. Death Penalty for Bunypants*, that torturing War Crminal Nazi Fuck!

(I'm sorry, he was merely the Grandson of "Hitler's Angel, which doesn't make him a Nazi)

[ElementaryPenguin]

12. Hang tight. Something's gotta give pretty soon.

I'm not sure Bushler has the kind of muscle he once had to stop all of this shit from snowballing into one giant cluster fuck!

[Walt Starr]

10. Would a future preseident make fun of George W. Bush's appeal

to have the execution order set aside?

Karma can be a wonderful things some times.

[ElementaryPenguin]

13. Instant Karma's gonna get...Chimp!

:evilgrin:

[Solly Mack]

11. Don't toy with me

I'm Bushed out enough as it is...

[shraby]

14. By refusing to produce the documents,

Ashcroft admitted they existed, therefore he can't very well shred.

[ElementaryPenguin]

17. Damn good point, shraby.

:toast:

[Solly Mack]

22. I'm still not getting my hopes up

but oh my..what a thought! Bush actually brought to justice...

[ElementaryPenguin]

26. Congressional Dems really have to make a stink over Ashcroft's refusal

And then the CIA will leak it anyway!

[leesa]

36. The dog can still eat them.

[ElementaryPenguin]

37. The documents. Thought you meant the prisoners for a sec.

Never can tell in these dark, exceedingly evil times!!

[Pobeka]

52. I'll bet they've been shreaded and burned.

The penalties for destroying evidence are far less than the penalties for the crimes for which evidence was in the document.

[TNOE]

15. I'd be really glad about the death penalty

being applied in his case - but FIRST I would like for them to send him to a REAL prision with REAL criminals where he would be made someone's bitch first and then taken repeatedly to be interrogated (tortured) for awhile with sleep depravation and attack dogs and whatever else he condoned to do unto others. He didn't get that "do unto others" part in the Bible.

Oh yea - and on edit - We MUST get the truth out of him about this administration's lies in which case torture would be legal under his directive.

[ElementaryPenguin]

21. Perhaps he should be turned over to the Iraqi people...

Along with his favorite evil-doer Saddam! I've got a feeling they'd know just what to do with him. If Iraq is the success he's still touting it to be, than they should welcome him (the liberator) with open arms...if it isn't...well, I guess they'd probably tear him from limb to...

[Unperson 309]

46. CAGE MATCH! Bush and Saddam!

Two go in... NOBODY comes OUT!

I *like* it!!!

309

[rumguy]

19. It would never happen - official immunity

[Cleita]

20. I would rather not give him the death penalty. What I would

like is for him to be forced to pay back the American people for lying about the Iraq war, and after making him, and Pickles destitute, putting him in Leavenworth the rest of his life.

[DoYouEverWonder]

24. Too bad

we can't send him to Abu Ghraib and slather him in his own shit. That would be a more fitting punishment than death.

[ElementaryPenguin]

25. How about Baghdad?

Chimpy's own hell on earth!

[Cleita]

27. Or Gitmo?

If they eventually release or send the prisoners in Gitmo somewhere else, what are they going to do with it? Seems like a good place for Bush and his cabinet and anyone else who aided him, like Rush Limbaugh, Bob Novak, etc.

[derby378]

23. Hi, Agent Mike!

Don't mind us; we're just discussing Constitutional law here...

[Zen]

29. Bush the War Criminal - an official proclamation would sound nice :)

Bush is a Mass Murderer.

[ElementaryPenguin]

30. Would be fitting for him to be remembered by that title - The War Criminal

Starting a frickin' war for nothing - but his own war profiteering! Just incredible! Historians are not going to believe the shit that went on in this time period.

[Catfight]

32. can't we give him a martyr's crucifixion? Just like his favorite

philosopher.

[Iris]

33. WWLD?

What would Laura do?

[bossfish]

51. She'd knock back a big toddie...

...and a little Xanax

[redowl]

38. justice should be so sweet

am not much for the death penalty but it would complete the circle of what goes around comes around for * quite nicely

ya think he deserves to be tortured first?

[ElementaryPenguin]

43. Perhaps torture would be sufficient.

I'm not into the death penalty myself. Like someone suggested here - a tour a Gitmo might be "fair."

[redowl]

49. a tour from the inside of the cages & in leg irons I hope

I have a feeling this poor excuse of a human being is already enduring the torture of his own miserable life.

[sofa king]

39. Live the retirement in l'exil!

Pardon my poor Freedom.

It occurs to me that should the death penalty be leveled against the President, he's going to have to find a stable place with a high standard of living which refuses to extradite Americans facing a possible death penalty. Now, where could he find a place like that? Certainly not Crawford, Texas.

Maybe you should brush up on your romance languages, Mr. President. Shouldn't be too hard--all your supporters say you're a pretty smart guy.

[samhonk]

40. He better hope his new lawyer

is better than the one that wrote up that memo. From what I read, the memo boils down to "the president can break the law however he wants during wartime, but for best results when you want to do something illegal, PUT IT IN WRITING."

This has to be the dumbest legal document since Bush V. Gore.

[ElementaryPenguin]

44. Maybe Scumsfeld & The Dick were tricking Chimpy into signing it .

Providing them with their cover - while, if it came down to it - sinking the mad war chimp. In any case - all indications are that such a signed directive does exist. When this comes out - along with the photos of the children being tortured - look out - terror warnings are sure to proliferate!

[Pobeka]

53. There has been no declaration of war.

If what you say is true, this is going to be bad, bad news for the bush cabal.

[Hubert Flottz]

41. How about KP for every day for the rest of his life!

And that's just for the AWOL charge! Then there's drunk driving, coke dealing, election stealing, lying, cheating, more stealing, murdering for profit, torturing, killing his own people, killing babies, using wmds, using rape rooms to get answers and on and on! Sound anything like anyone else we've been hearing about? Come on Mike you can help too!

[Cat Atomic]

42. That sort of poetic justice is reserved for Twilight Zone episodes.

[ElementaryPenguin]

45. True, dat , cat.

True.

:hurts:

[Jacobin]

47. If I were on the jury, I would vote to convict, but life in prison

please.

Death penalty is barbaric. Let him rot away in prison.