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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:37 AM
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Bush on the edge, about to free fall right into nothing (apologies to TP)


"Bush Disputes al Qaida-Saddam Conclusion"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20040617/ap_on_go_pr_wh/sept_11_bush_7

"There was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida," Bush insisted following a meeting with his Cabinet at the White House.

"This administration never said that the 9-11 attacks were orchestrated between Saddam and al-Qaida," he said.

"We did say there were numerous contacts between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida, for example, Iraqi intelligence agents met with (Osama) bin Laden, the head of al-Qaida in the Sudan."

"The world is better off and America is more secure without Saddam Hussein in power," Bush told reporters in the Cabinet Room where he met with his advisers to discuss Iraq and the economy.



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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:38 AM
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1. Yes, Bush, Assert, but don't offer Proof...
that'll fool us.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:39 AM
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2. Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo...
Saying this TODAY about the War Criminal, Donald Rumsfeld:

"The secretary and I discussed that for the first time this morning. ... I'm never disappointed in my secretary of defense. He's doing a fabulous job and America's lucky to have him in the position he's in."


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adriennel Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:40 AM
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3. look at my hands!!
it will distract from the fact that I'M LYING and I mean it!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:43 AM
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4. If this free fall of Bush actually happens before Kerry takes office....
...who will take charge of the country? My God the idea of Cheney or Hastert becoming the Command-in-Chief is pretty scary. Will there be a military coup? The generals will totally yield to the neo-cons and that would mean that Rumsfeld, Cheney and Rove would be in charge.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:49 AM
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11. it's scary but
I wouldn't be so sure about the generals yielding to the neo-cons
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:44 AM
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5. Ohhhh...how sweet...Bush likes Rumsfeld....Ohhhh...
Asked whether he was disappointed that Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld had improperly held an Iraqi prisoner in secret for more than seven months in violation of the Geneva Conventions, Bush replied: "The secretary and I discussed that for the first time this morning. ... I'm never disappointed in my secretary of defense. He's doing a fabulous job and America's lucky to have him in the position he's in."

I bolded the obvious ass-protecting lie before the fabulous statement.... BWAHAHAHAAHAHA. Again, Bush should be singing: They are coming to take me away, Ha Ha
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:48 AM
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9. I feel better!
LOL! I needed that. I've been having a rough morning. :-)
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:45 AM
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6. People should just start screaming "LINK???" to he and Cheney.
Assertions just don't cut it anymore.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:51 AM
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15. of course they do
anyone remember Ari Fleischmann? black is white, night is day, next question please sorry we're out of time.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:59 AM
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19. Errr...Ari "Fleischer"..."Fleischmann" is the margarine...LOL


Fleischer



Fleischmann's

:evilgrin:
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:47 PM
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28. I always called him Fleischmann's
he went rancid real fast
:evilgrin:
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 01:28 PM
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35. I Thought Fleischmann's Was A Pre-Packaged YEAST
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 02:44 PM
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44. oy vay! reply to all
brainfart on the fleischmann -- sorry my fingers think faster than my brain. Thanks for noticing so thoroughly :eyes: (hey we need a POUNCE smilie!). :hi:
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:39 PM
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26. Screaming "Link???" *SNARF*
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 12:40 PM by comsymp
Am loving the visual~
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:46 AM
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7. Once a lying cocksucker...
... always a lying cocksucker.

Don't expect any more than that from this sonofabitch.

Evidence says no, and Bush says yes.

Why the public couldn't figure out that this turkey was a liar in his first campaign is beyond me (well, except that he had a helluva lot of help from the press, who thought he was a great guy, and that Gore was dull and wore earth tones).

If Bush were bacteria in a petri dish, scientists would be wandering by, saying, "what the hell is that?"
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:49 AM
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10. No, don't hold back, tell us what you really feel...
:toast:

:evilgrin:
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:02 PM
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20. Okay, since you asked....
Morford, look out....

This man is the slime left in the trail of the lowliest of slugs. He's neither human nor android. He's reptilian. If I stepped on Bush on the sidewalk, I'd think it a public service.

Bush is anathema, the antithesis of all that is good and kind and decent in this society. His friends and associates are demons, and he is the anti-Christ, the poseur, the fake, the phony, who ascends to a throne which is crumbling and rotten.

Bush is Cheney. Cheney is Bush. Both make Jeff Goldblum in "The Fly" look like a golden god. This man is little more than the sputum from a consumptive North Korean snail.

That said, I hope he's unelected soon, before I find myself in need of a heart valve. :P
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:57 PM
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29. Hmmmm.. sounds like we have another "Deadwood" aficionado
:)
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 01:05 PM
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31. Never seen it... honest....
... I don't have cable or satellite or nuthin'.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 02:10 PM
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40. The "c.s." word is used about 4 times per sentence
:)
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 02:24 PM
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42. Hey I like...
cock but I don't lie about it!! hahaha! I agree The Chimp is nothing but a lying sack of shit! I'm just dying to see what the latest polls would show...if there's still (stupid) people out there who believe this link between Al Qaeda and Saddam.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:47 AM
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8. The fact he hasn't been smitten means:
(A) There is no God.

(B) There is a God, but he/she/it couldn't care less.

(C) God is a Republican.

(D) God's been on a 3 1/2 year vacation.

(E) God really is talking to Dubya, which means we're all in deep shit.

Any other theories?
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:54 AM
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17. actually no good deed goes unpunished
since he hasn't actually done one of those . . . ah, you're right, god is probably a republican.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 01:24 PM
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34. God gave us free will
and expects us to use it wisely. He is currently scratching his head and waiting for us to cure our collective sickness.
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Shredr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:49 AM
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12. Yeah, but how much of the country actually believes him?
That's the scariest part. On Ann Coulter's chat room, they're all screaming about how the 9/11 Commision is leaning way Left and can't be trusted and how Bush is right. They offer this as proof:

* Abdul Rahman Yasin, a member of the al Qaeda cell that detonated the 1993 World Trade Center bomb, fled to Iraq. U.S. forces recently discovered a cache of documents in Tikrit, Saddam's hometown, that show that Iraq gave Yasin both a home and a salary.

"* Bin Laden met eight times with officers of Iraq's Special Security Organization, a secret police agency run by Saddam's son Qusay, and with Saddam's external intelligence service, according to intelligence made public by Secretary of State Colin Powell, at the United Nations Security Council on Feb. 6, 2003.

* Bin Laden met the director of the Iraqi mukhabarat in 1996 in Khartoum, according to Powell.

* An al Qaeda operative now held by the U.S. confessed that in the mid '90s, bin Laden had forged an agreement with Saddam's men to cease all terrorist activities against the Iraqi dictator.

* In October 2000, another Iraqi intelligence operative, Salah Suleiman, was arrested by Pakistani authorities. Suleiman was shuttling between Iraqi intelligence and Ayman al Zawahiri, al Qaeda's No. 2.

* Spanish investigators have uncovered documents seized from Yusuf Galan — who is charged by a Spanish court with being "directly involved with the preparation and planning" of the Sept. 11 attacks — that show the terrorist was invited to a party at the Iraqi embassy in Madrid. The invitation used his "al Qaeda nom de guerre."

* An Iraqi defector to Turkey, known by his cover name as "Abu Mohammed," told the Sunday Times of London that he saw bin Laden's fighters in Iraq in 1997. At the time, Mohammed was a colonel in Saddam's Fedayeen. He described an encounter at Salman Pak, the training facility southeast of Baghdad, where militants trained to hijack planes with knives — on a full-size Boeing 707.

* In 1998, Abbas al-Janabi, a longtime aide to Saddam's son Uday, defected to the West. At the time, he repeatedly told reporters that there was a direct connection between Iraq and al Qaeda.

* The Sunday Times found a Saddam loyalist in a Kurdish prison who claims to have been Dr. Zawahiri's bodyguard during his 1992 visit with Saddam in Baghdad. Dr. Zawahiri was a close associate of bin Laden at the time.

* Following the defeat of the Taliban, almost two dozen bin Laden associates "converged on Baghdad and established a base of operations there," Powell told the United Nations in February 2003. From their Baghdad base, the secretary said, they supervised the movement of men, materiel and money for al Qaeda's global network.

* Abu Musaab al-Zarqawi oversaw an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan. Wounded, he sought medical treatment in Baghdad in May 2002. When he recovered, he restarted a training camp in northern Iraq. Zarqawi's Iraq cell was later tied to the October 2002 murder of Lawrence Foley, a U.S. Agency for International Development official. The captured assassin confessed that he received orders and funds from Zarqawi's cell in Iraq.

* Documents found among the debris of the Iraqi Intelligence Center show that Baghdad funded the Allied Democratic Forces, a Ugandan terror group led by an Islamist cleric linked to bin Laden. According to a London's Daily Telegraph, the organization offered to recruit "youth to train for the jihad" at a "headquarters for international holy warrior network" in Baghdad.

* CIA Director George Tenet told the Senate Intelligence Committee: "Iraq has in the past provided training in document-forgery and bomb-making to al Qaeda. It also provided training in poisons and gasses to two al Qaeda associates; one of these associates characterized the relationship as successful. . . . This information is based on a solid foundation of intelligence. It comes to us from credible and reliable sources. Much of it is corroborated by multiple sources."

The 9/11 Commission's work is too important to squander on politics. The nation needs a full, frank assessment of the government-wide failures in the Clinton and Bush years that led to the terrorist attacks — and a sober judge, not a camera-mugging prosecutor. Let's hope the commissioners realize that before July 26. "


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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:51 AM
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14. The Stupid Part of the country...that's who.
George Bush is Hero of the Stupid.

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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:18 PM
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23. LOL!!! Sums it up nicely and would make a great bumperticker or t-shirt
hahaha
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:49 AM
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13. Shame.. Shame on..
..Won't get fooled again. You lying sack of crap.

He's obviously never read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".
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niceyoungman Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:52 AM
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16. the other side
to fight off the right we need to know what and how they think.
Visit www.drudgereport.com
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:43 PM
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27. Welcome to DU, but no way in hell.
The terms "Drudge" and "thinking" are mutually exclusive and contradictory terms, not to mention that your post seems to advertise a source we know already anyway.

Drudge is a tool, and a gossip columnist with near-zero credibility.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 01:00 PM
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30. Don't visit drudge
if something there is that earth-shatteringly important (and credible, *snarf), then it'll be related here.

Don't give that jerk the hits.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 02:04 PM
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39. Exactly. I don't.
And it drive me nuts when his stuff gets linked here.
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niceyoungman Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 01:14 PM
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32. you are probably right
My bad guys but I like to know what I'm going to hear from my friends and family on the right and by reading Drudge I am very prepared because they WILL get their info from Drudge, Hannity or Limbaugh
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 01:19 PM
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33. I never go there...refuse to increase his hit rate
no thank you
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:54 AM
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18. It was those damn cabin boys
I tell you. Thats our story and we're sticking to it, let's see if it plays out.
Cyrano isn't there a saying about those whom the gods would destroy, they first set on high?
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:25 PM
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24. Something like that, but
I'd like to see a smite, even if it's just a small one like a lightening bolt hitting near him the next time he ties together Al Qaeda and Iraq in front of a camera.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 01:31 PM
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38. yup just a little shock to shut him up
or make him tell the truth. The man should find out what "the fear of God" really means.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:03 PM
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21. You said Iraq trained and aided Al Qaeda in making bombs
You lying sack of crap.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:10 PM
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22. I love that last picture of the two liars
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 12:14 PM by Marianne
Powell trying to look as if he is indeed a statesman, according to the myth of Powell and trying to live up to or at least look like that myth, and hyeractive, out of his league, in over his head, Bush the frat boy, son of another failed president.


Liars all of them and they do not care who knows it. Here they are, set for life due to their lies. They managed to murder tens of thousands, and wound and maim thousands more, then proceed to ignore them,and their flag drapped caskets, while we see pictures of all the young soldiers hooting and hollaring and fighting each other to shake the hand of the despicable man , who was AWOL himself from his own duty in wartime, and now cockadoodles and struts in front of cameras telling more lies to these willing soldiers. They will be ousted--with all their money, to enjoy a completely safe and lovely retirement. The build up toward all these scadals and these lies is too large to spin away now. Powell thinks in his mind he can play his statesman game--he gave it away to Bush, on the floor of the UN

It is no wonder that people in this country do not vote.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:36 PM
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25. Bush does the "Gish Gallop" on the al-Quaida/Iraq connection.......
The "Gish Gallop" was a term coined by an evolutionary biologist who used to degate Duane Gish, a "Creation Science" apologist. Every time the evolutionist would shoot down one of Gish's bogus arguments, he would "gallop" to another piece of "evidence" against evolution and say "See!" The Atta/Iraqi intelligence meeting in Prague now being officially and soundly debunked, Bush "gallops" to an Iraqi/Bin Laden meeting in the Sudan and says "See!"
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 01:30 PM
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36. He is a pathelogical liar
He tells a lie a few times and he believes it. He is furious when we don't believe it too.
I hope to see him completely blow a gasket on Television. I want to see him start ranting and raving about godless liberals. I would pay money to see that.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 01:31 PM
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37. what about those other Saddam and al Qaeda relationships?
Rummie and Saddam
Reagan and Saddam
Poppy and Saddam fer chrisake

every living bush and every living bin Laden
the entire bushgang and the Saudis who fund al Qaeda

I say we can't be too careful. The first warning might be a mushroom cloud. We need to take out all the terrorists and their known associates immediately.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 02:17 PM
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41. Yeah... and Mohammad Atta lived in the US
for how many years?....he must have connections with Bush, since he lived here.;-)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:23 PM
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47. they would have us believe a link between Saddam and Osama
but what's more important, they beg the question of whether that justifies an illegal invasion and occupation.

We KNOW of the strong links between the Saudis and al Qaeda. why didn't we invade Iraq?

We KNOW of strong links between Pakistan and al Qaeda. Why didn't we invade Pakistan?

We KNOW of links between al Qaeda and Egypt. Why didn't we invade Egypt?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 02:35 PM
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43. When your credibility is shot to hell anyway why not just keep lying?
He's told so many why confuse people with the truth at this stage.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 02:52 PM
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45. What does this mean?
This pic taken today:



President Bush draws an 'X' on his forehead as he explained how some Iraqi businessmen were tortured by the regime of former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein while addressing the National Federation of Independent Business Thursday, June 17, 2004 in Washington. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

Strange.....
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 02:57 PM
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46. Indicating that that's where Charles Manson has a swastika tattoo
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:33 PM
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48. FURTHER proof
that the ONLY thing the insipid chimp has left is TERRA

nothing else to run on. so, back to moldy LIES about TERRA TERRA TERRA

the last thing * wants to do is capture terrorists... he'd only have to train a new batch to keep the people in FEAR

HATE, FEAR and IGNORANCE: The "Real" Trifecta
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:35 PM
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49. That second picture -
it gives me the absolute creeps to look at this man and it disturbs the HELL out of me that half this country adores him.
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