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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 02:07 PM
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Ever hear Bush mention the Grid?????
Last night in his taped speech, Bush said the grid needss updating, then he said "I've always said that". I've followed this fool for the duration and I've never heard him mention the grid. I believe this man lies so naturally that doesn't know the truth from his ass.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 02:11 PM
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1. I doubt if he even knows what a power grid is.
Does anyone for a second believe Chimpy has even the remotest concept of electricity and how it works?
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 02:16 PM
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2. He thinks it's a football formation
Edited on Fri Aug-15-03 02:17 PM by ugarte
run by Darrel Royal at UT.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 02:17 PM
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3. Maybe he meant The Matrix
needs upgrading. Maybe he thought he said The Matrix.

You've gotta understand, we're dealing with a compulsively lying alcoholic here. That's what alcoholics do. They lie. Ever seen one sitting on a bar stool all shit-faced that wasn't lying? That's our "president" (and I use the word very loosely).
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 02:42 PM
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4. I Hope He Gets Nailed on This One

Bush never made a point of the electrical system.

However, I understand that in 2001, the administration joined Congressional Republicans in opposing $350M in federal loan guarantees for upgrading the power grid. Short of default, the guarantee would have not have cost taxpayers one cent.

We'll see if the newly challenging stance of the media extends beyond Iraq to other obvious exaggerations and untruths.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 02:52 PM
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5. Seems like Nexis could settle this pretty quick.
And if the results leave his ass in the breeze, we could bribe a reporter to ask Scotty: to what did aWol refer?. Earnest but private policy discussions with Pickles? Then we could see if she lies, too.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 02:52 PM
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6. Well of course he did!
Weren't you listening during his State of the Union address (excerpted here from http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030128-19.html)*:

You and I serve our country in a time of great consequence. During this session of Congress, we have the duty to reform domestic programs vital to our country; we have the opportunity to save millions of lives abroad from a terrible disease. We will work for a prosperity that is broadly shared, and we will answer every danger and every enemy that threatens the American people. And we must strengthen the northeast power grid(Applause.)

In all these days of promise and days of reckoning, we can be confident that we can strengthen the northeast power grid. In a whirlwind of change and hope and peril, our faith is sure, our resolve is firm, and our union is strong enough to strengthen the northeast power grid. (Applause.)

This country has many challenges such as strengthening the northeast power grid. We will not deny, we will not ignore, we will not pass along our problems to other Congresses, to other presidents, and other generations. (Applause.) We will confront them with focus and clarity and courage.

_____________

*Note: Please be advised that the passages in italics may not have been in either the actual text or delivery of the speech, and may merely be a cheap device for getting an equally cheap laugh.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 02:59 PM
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9. Actually, the unfunny thing about your funny post
is that routinely aWol's verbal noise and grammatic roadkill are "cleaned up" by reporters and editors. So, too bad for future generations; "you had to be there".
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:05 PM
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10. But they can't save everything
Check out this sense-defying sentence:

"During this session of Congress, we have the duty to reform domestic programs vital to our country; we have the opportunity to save millions of lives abroad from a terrible disease."

The sentence is a run-on, the "terrible disease" isn't identified, and right when you'd expect a person to make a third point, the sentence ends abruptly. My guess is that Chimpy's little brain simply got full after the second point, and he chopped off the rest of whatever had been written.

Quite a difference from our last elected President, no? According to Stephanopoulos' book, during one of his State of the Union addresses, someone loaded the wrong speech into the TelePrompTer (the prior year's SOTU). Clinton noticed the error right away, and without referring to the prompter, launched into the correct speech until the error was corrected, and the text caught up to where Clinton was. He then read the rest of the speech as if nothing had happened.

I'd give a shiny dime to see the result if the same thing happened to Chimpy. I don't know if he'd just read the old text and never know the difference, or if he'd stop everything until the problem got fixed.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 02:53 PM
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7. Yes, I heard him come out against
spending $350 Million to update the grid in 2001, a plan that was killed by the Republican Congress.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:10 PM
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12. Exactly - Abraham's 'recommendations'
Here's Abrahams recommendations for the Transmission System. Did I miss something, or is there not ONE MENTION of federal money to actually fix this? Doesn't it say entrepreneurial money to build transmission lines?

http://tis.eh.doe.gov/ntgs/reports.html

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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 02:56 PM
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8. I searched his speeches at the WH website ...
Edited on Fri Aug-15-03 03:03 PM by Lisa
He only mentions the North American situation twice ... once during a meeting with the Canadian PM, about "expanding" the grid so as to be able to import power from Canada and Mexico. And another time, about improving one particular transmission line in California. Which is a far cry from renovating and upgrading the entire network, let alone in the Northeast!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/05/20010529-6.html

What the heck does "We're dancing toward an interstate electric grid to match our interstate highways and interstate phone systems" mean? He said this in front of a bunch of Marines, too. They must have thought he was nuts.

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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:08 PM
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11. No, but I can't wait to hear him say "Greee-uhd!" w. that loveable smirk!
Or would he somehow blow the pronunciation of the one-syllable word in question and utter "grod" or "grud", or something similarly non-English?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:14 PM
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14. Here's some Fresh Dubya:
Al Qaeda is still active, and they're still recruiting, and they're still a threat because we won't cower.

Miramar, California, Aug. 14, 2003

If that's true, shouldn't we start cowering to remove the threat?
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:31 PM
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16. That's the impression his words convey
What an idiot! (GW, not you, Ripley.)
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:10 PM
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13. He mentioned need for updating the power grid many times
to me privately.
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2cents Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:26 PM
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15. smells like another "sweetheart" contract
in the offing for Halliburton, and a nice consultancy for Kenny Boy
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:31 PM
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17. He means "grade" like in 4th grid...
watta chimp.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 11:00 AM
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18. Bush said no to power grid upgrade in 2001
Another DU topic.

It would be great to get his exact words or actions in both cases. Any link on "I've always said that" statement?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=182707
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