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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 06:01 AM
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"blind faith in this administration has been a losing strategy"
Show Us the Proof

When the commission studying the 9/11 terrorist attacks refuted the Bush administration's claims of a connection between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden, we suggested that President Bush apologize for using these claims to help win Americans' support for the invasion of Iraq. We did not really expect that to happen. But we were surprised by the depth and ferocity of the administration's capacity for denial. President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have not only brushed aside the panel's findings and questioned its expertise, but they are also trying to rewrite history.

Mr. Bush said the 9/11 panel had actually confirmed his contention that there were "ties" between Iraq and Al Qaeda. He said his administration had never connected Saddam Hussein to 9/11. Both statements are wrong.

Before the war, Mr. Bush spoke of far more than vague "ties" between Iraq and Al Qaeda. He said Iraq had provided Al Qaeda with weapons training, bomb-making expertise and a base in Iraq. On Feb. 8, 2003, Mr. Bush said that "an Al Qaeda operative was sent to Iraq several times in the late 1990's for help in acquiring poisons and gases." The 9/11 panel's report, as well as news articles, indicate that these things never happened.

Mr. Cheney said yesterday that the "evidence is overwhelming" of an Iraq-Qaeda axis and that there had been a "whole series of high-level contacts" between them. The 9/11 panel said a senior Iraqi intelligence officer made three visits to Sudan in the early 1990's, meeting with Osama bin Laden once in 1994. It said Osama bin Laden had asked for "space to establish training camps, as well as assistance in procuring weapons, but Iraq apparently never responded." The panel cited reports of further contacts after Osama bin Laden returned to Afghanistan in 1996, but said there was no working relationship. As far as the public record is concerned, then, Mr. Cheney's "longstanding ties" amount to one confirmed meeting, after which the Iraq government did not help Al Qaeda. By those standards, the United States has longstanding ties to North Korea.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/19/opinion/19SAT1.html




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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 06:38 AM
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1. illustration
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TomNickell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:13 AM
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2. Important.
The NYT still has a large influence.

If the NYT editorial page will continue to demand explanations, much will happen.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:52 AM
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3. Osama backed anti-Saddam insurgents in Iraqi Kurdistan
From MSNBC: 9/11 panel sees no link between Iraq, al-Qaida

The report said that bin Laden explored possible cooperation with Saddam at the urging of allies in Sudan eager to protect their own ties to Iraq, even though the al-Qaida leader had previously provided support for “anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan.”

Bin Laden ceased that support in the early 1990s, opening the way for a meeting between the al-Qaida leader and a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in 1994 in Sudan, the report said. At the meeting, bin Laden is said to have requested space to establish training camps in Iraq as well as Iraqi assistance in procuring weapons, but Iraq apparently never responded, the staff report said.


These are Cheney's "ties"???

Gee, I wonder why Saddam didn't want to allow his enemy to open up bases in his territory and give him weapons...
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:12 AM
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4. "ties" rhymes with "LIES"
the gall of BushCo is *almost* unbelievable.

but as long as they have the corporate media watching their backs...
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