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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 01:08 PM
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The McCain trap (my post from May 19).
I repost it here to show the way in which their plans are working themselves out. The original post (cut and pasted in its entirety), followed by the link.

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Please note: the following is not a conspiracy narrative. It is based on a lot of conjecture but also on my seeing a number of faxes from various repub. groups--some who have very good info., others who have crappy info.

First, many people here at DU have been predicting that Cheney will fall from the ticket. I agree with this. He's too much of a drain. Timing will be everything. An article in "The Hill" makes the point again: http://www.hillnews.com/eisele/051904.aspx

The author puts a happy face on Cheney's departure but the end is the same.

Here's what I know for sure (as I have seen drafts of the various emails): One of the main sources for the McCain for Kerry VP leak is a repub. operative, who also happens to work for a certain energy resource lobbying group (god, the "legal" in-bededness in Washington is astounding). This main source for the leak also happens to be dear friends with Rove (they either went to high school or college together). They put the McCain for Kerry VP out there knowing full well that McCain would refuse. They also hoped McCain would draw sharp contrasts between himself and the Democratic party. He didn't do this. Everyone wants McCain because he plays well in the public; most importantly, however, he plays REALLY well in the media (how does a politician get away with use the word "gooks"?????). Rove et al hoped McCain would be a partisan and kick Kerry a few times. But McCain didn't.

There is a ton, a TON, of work being done right now feeling McCain out as VP for Bush. Bush can't ask him if there is any chance McCain would turn him down. That would look really bad. But the rumor that Kerry would "redefine" the VP role for McCain, as a sort of co-President, was actually a projection of Rove's wooing process from the Bush camp. I don't know, but I imagine McCain knows all of this is going on (if I know, McCain's people HAVE to know).

Why would Bush want McCain? Uh, simply to hold onto political power. That's the only thing these people know and practice. With McCain on the ticket, Bush has sold himself as a uniter and not a divider, a reformer, and someone who wants to return to fiscal responsibility. Remember, this is an administration that takes credit for the programs it attempted to cut (see front page of NY Times today).

Here's the fun part: if Bush openly offers the spot to McCain and McCain declines, then McCain finally got to do to Bush what he's secretly desired the whole time. McCain's rejection of Bush's offer would spell the end of Bush.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 01:28 PM
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1. This could go even further....
- No matter what he says in public, McCain has a substantial distaste for Shrubya for the shite he pulled in 2000 against him.

- Perhaps Kerry and McCain are better friends that people realize, they have the 'band of brothers' bond that Shrubya has with no one.

- Sure Kerry/McCain know that he couldn't be Kerry's VP.. but it STILL drived Rove nuts. And in turn Shrubya crazier than he is.

- Everytime this comes up, it totally throws Rove/Shrubya into a fit and disrupts/compounds all the other troubles coming up.

- Cheney's going down.. little arguement there (unless Cheney is more of a puppet master than we know and SHRUBYA goes down.. different story)

- so Rove/et.al. see the boost that McCain gives, and they concentrate their efforts on getting McCain on for Shrubya's VP

- McCain plays 'good solider', gives them some hope, keeps them talking... and all the time Kerry is smiling in the background.

- It gets down to nutt-cutting time.. close the convention, Shrubya has to name a new VP candidate (don't expect it before then..)

- when it's too late to tur back, and in public.... McCain drops the hammer on Shrubya, not just no but HELL NO. This is your mess, get yourself out.

- Shrubya is in Ruins, Kerry hasn't had to do a thing ..... and in Janurary.. Sec of Defense McCain.

The 'band of brothers' strategy... and they do it to themselves.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 01:39 PM
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2. I've started to question whether Mccain actually would
fail to support Bush. Didnt he support Bush just yesterday in Florida? I believe he had glowing things to say about Bush. This pissed me off! I used to like Mccain and believe he had integrity but his actions point to his brainless support of Bush.:mad:
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