Drudge's Homosexuality

[Jabbery]

I am fascinated with the concept of the right-wing homosexual who honestly doesn't think that people know he is gay. Matt Drudge, who by all accounts is not only very right-wing, but also very, very gay, is a study in contradictions. His particular obsession with anti-abortion psychosis is especially interesting, in that he will most likely never have any potential to be involved in the kind of a relationship that might produce the need for choice. Drudge is basically the heir to the legacy of Roy Cohn, the flamboyant homosexual attorney who served as Joe McCarthy's hatchet queen and who angrily denied to the day he died of AIDS that he was gay, even to people who had seen him in the middle of gay orgies. Drudge fancies himself to be more akin to Walter Winchell, the infamous gossip maven, who was himself a closeted homosexual, but he is most certainly more like Cohn, whose bizarre lifestyle was a maddening dichotomy of flaming, blazing gay male pride coated with a thick veneer of public right-wing rectitude.

Comments?

[Bluebear]

1. Outside of "queen, flamboyant, flaming and blazing" adjectives...

It bears a look-see!

[Jabbery]

Sorry - but with so many gay friends, I can't help it

They're rubbing off on me. Oops, wait - er, uh, I mean, you know what I'm trying to say.

[Deja Q]

2. Nobody's perfect?

:shrug:

He's got to be living in deep denial... if nothing else.

[newsguyatl]

3. good post

i find it intriguing as well.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

4. I think it is a form of psychosis

obviously these people must hate themselves because of who they are. They can't stand it, so they project their hate onto others, all the while denying their own nature.

[Warpy]

11. Not really psychosis

but rather a deep-seated self loathing. After all, it's hard to embrace a part of yourself that is condemned by so many segments of the larger society.

Their loathing of their gayness is translated into a loathing of that part of themselves they see as "feminine," and from there to a loathing of everything female. That plus being anatomically exempt from ever having to confront the dilemma of unwanted pregnancy makes them all rabidly antiabortion, anti womens' rights, anti day care, anti pay parity, anti women, themselves.

It's odd and damaging as hell, especially for the female half of the human race when these cretins get into power, but it's not actually psychotic.

[qwertyMike]

5. Was J Edgar Hoover gay?

Or just a garden variety cross-dresser?

He leaned a tad to the right didn't he?

[QC]

6. Ask Clyde Tolson. n/t

[olddem43]

7. J.E. Hoover was certainly homosexual

The reason he never went after the Mafia was that they had explicit pictures of him with another man (or boy). The evidence for his sexual orientation is very strong.

[tjwash]

13. He was gay.

His domestic partner, Clyde Tolson, was also the assistant director of the FBI. For forty years they were constant companions. Meyer Lansky, had photographic evidence of Hoover's homosexuality and was able to use this to stop the FBI from looking too closely into his own criminal activities.

He also was ultra-right. Among other things, his third in charge William Sullivan was in charge of FBI's Division Five, which smeared leaders of left-wing organizations.

[newsguyatl]

15. ...

certainly looked partnered to me. :shrug:

[tjwash]

18. They pretty much never left each others side.

They took their vacations together, and ex FBI agents said some years later, that talking to Tolson was talking to Hoover. It was sort of a running joke around the FBI, that they all called them "J. Edna and Mother Tolson."

[daa]

8. Isn't Drudge in Miami

Pretty close to OxyMOron Boy. Maybe that's why Marta left. Maybe there is something to that college guy that said Limbough is gay.

[Jabbery]

9. Yeah - he frequents the gay clubs of south beach

He's a fixture in the gay techno clubs of south beach - every Friday and Sat. night, he's sweating on the dance floor till the wee hours, out-gaying the most professional gay partyers.

[AntiCoup2K4]

10. Wouldn't they make a cute couple ?

:puke: :puke: :puke:

If it were possible for right wingers to "scare somebody straight", that would probably work better than anything Fred Phelps or Pat Robertson could ever dream up.

[terrya]

12. Very good post, Jabbery. I thought the Roy Cohn comparison was apt.

Excellent post! I agree with you.

Thanks,
Terry

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

14. Walter Winchell, closet case?

He was the basis for the gossip columnists played by Burt Lancaster in "Sweet Smell of Sucess"..and their was hints in that movie of something strange in the characters affection for his sister.

But the real Walter Winchell a closet case? Thats a new one on me.

[newsguyatl]

16. what about abe lincoln?

my college professor always insinuated ole abe was homosexual as well. i believe his partner was joshua speed?

[Az]

17. Uncomfirmed

But the story persists. It is the reason that the gay republicans refer to their contingent as the Log Cabin Republicans.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

19. What makes one "very, very gay"?

I'm curious about this sliding scale of gayness.

"Have you heard Drudge is gay?"
"Oh, no, he's VERY gay."
Oh, very gay, I see. I mean, slightly gay would explain the fedora, pehaps. "Flamboyant," of course, would explain one who is moderately gay. But VERY gay. Ahhh, now I see."

At what point did Drudge figure out he was "very" gay? I mean, was he engaged in sexual activity with three men, wearing a feather boa, sipping a wine sprizer, and just stopped and said, "Man, I am VERY gay."

Or, perhaps it's the moment one sees oneself on film "coated with a thick veneer of public right-wing rectitude." Subtle rhetoric isn't my strength either, Jabbery.

[stevedeshazer]

20. Thanks

I was going to ask the very, very same question. :)

[Jabbery]

22. I meant very, very, very super extra triple nuclear gay

Or maybe I meant "double secret gay," which is just one notch above "outrageously amazingly unbelievably incredibly gay."

:) :0 :)

[necso]

21. Perhaps there is an element of emotional immaturity in his behavior.

Children can get a extra "kick" out of behavior that is perceived as illicit, forbidden or secretive. In any case the power of being different things to different people (living the "lie") can be intoxicating.

None of the far right types seem to have any problem living dichotomies. Rush is both a junkie and an a ranter against other people's perceived weaknesses. * switches from Christ posturer to anti-Christ actor in a heartbeat.

While it is inherent that different circumstances pull forward different parts of one's character, there is something quite different going on here. Their's is such a radical change in posture as to denote either some deep mental illness or immature minds using the brazen lie and obvious pretense as a way of enhancing their "thrill" or of dealing with life circumstances. In Drudge this is sad and vaguely threatening. In * this is a calamity.

Nonetheless, Cohn is an apt comparison from what little I know of the creep(s).

[UTUSN]

23. 06 -13-04, He Said, "I am not a Gay man" on His Radio Show

to a caller who got past the screener. The scuttlebutt about wingnut Hispanic Miguel ESTRADA, whose Shrub nomination to the federal bench was blocked by our Dem senators and Hispanic groups, was that he was known to pick up dudes and that in one hotel room he jumped out of the bed yelling to the dude, "You're GAYYYYY!!!!!" To which the dude replied, "So are you," and ESTRADA yelled back, "I am NOTTTT!!!!" (I wish I had saved the link from back when.)

So that is a known phenomenon. In ESTRADA's case, there might be a Hispanic cultural factor, to the effect that only the "feminine" actor in the duo is considered to be the Gay one.

But this all ties into the Eternal mystery: Why would ANY minority----Black, Hispanic, Gay------be aligned with the wingnut side of the world? Andrew SULLIVAN? By the way, does SULLIVAN take Roman Catholic communion? What about death-penalty believer HANNITY? Uh, oh, I'm rambling now.