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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 06:58 PM
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Mad As Hell!
Pardon my breaking into Kerry vs Bush: The Smackdown, but I have some excerpts from a transcript of an interesting speech by Bill Moyers here:

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"When powerful interests shower Washington with millions in campaign contributions, they often get what they want. But it's ordinary citizens and firms that pay the price and most of them never see it coming. This is what happens if you don't contribute to their campaigns or spend generously on lobbying. You pick up a disproportionate share of America's tax bill. You pay higher prices for a broad range of products from peanuts to prescriptions. You pay taxes that others in a similar situation have been excused from paying. You're compelled to abide by laws while others are granted immunity from them. You must pay debts that you incur while others do not. You're barred from writing off on your tax returns some of the money spent on necessities while others deduct the cost of their entertainment. You must run your business by one set of rules, while the government creates another set for your competitors. In contrast, the fortunate few who contribute to the right politicians and hire the right lobbyists enjoy all the benefits of their special status. Make a bad business deal; the government bails them out. If they want to hire workers at below market wages, the government provides the means to do so. If they want more time to pay their debts, the government gives them an extension. If they want immunity from certain laws, the government gives it. If they want to ignore rules their competition must comply with, the government gives its approval. If they want to kill legislation that is intended for the public, it gets killed."
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I know, I know: this sounds very much like a call for class war. But the class war was declared a generation ago, in a powerful paperback polemic by William Simon, who was soon to be Secretary of the Treasury. He called on the financial and business class, in effect, to take back the power and privileges they had lost in the depression and new deal. They got the message, and soon they began a stealthy class war against the rest of society and the principles of our democracy. They set out to trash the social contract, to cut their workforces and wages, to scour the globe in search of cheap labor, and to shred the social safety net that was supposed to protect people from hardships beyond their control. Business Week put it bluntly at the time: "Some people will obviously have to do with less....it will be a bitter pill for many Americans to swallow the idea of doing with less so that big business can have more."
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The middle class and working poor are told that what's happening to them is the consequence of Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand." This is a lie. What's happening to them is the direct consequence of corporate activism, intellectual propaganda, the rise of a religious orthodoxy that in its hunger for government subsidies has made an idol of power, and a string of political decisions favoring the powerful and the privileged who bought the political system right out from under us. To create the intellectual framework for this takeover of public policy they funded conservative think tanks -- The Heritage Foundation, the Hoover Institution, and the American Enterprise Institute -- that churned out study after study advocating their agenda.
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To put political muscle behind these ideas they created a formidable political machine. One of the few journalists to cover the issues of class -- Thomas Edsall of The Washington Post -- wrote: "During the 1970s, business refined its ability to act as a class, submerging competitive instincts in favor of joint, cooperate action in the legislative area." Big business political action committees flooded the political arena with a deluge of dollars. And they built alliances with the religious right -- Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority and Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition -- who mounted a cultural war providing a smokescreen for the class war, hiding the economic plunder of the very people who were enlisted as foot soldiers in the cause of privilege. In a book to be published this summer, Daniel Altman describes what he calls the "neo-economy -- a place without taxes, without a social safety net, where rich and poor live in different financial worlds -- and it's coming to America." He's a little late. It's here. Says Warren Buffett, the savviest investor of them all: "My class won."

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much more here:
http://www.alternet.org/story/18954

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sweetness Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:11 PM
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1. Great Post
I have been trying to spread the word on this for a while......Any thoughts on how this relates to politics in general??

My 2 cents: republicans=democrats when it comes to this takeover of america wealth
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:19 PM
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3. You're correct about the "=", but you'll need asbestos here to say that
:thumbsup:
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:03 PM
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7. Well maybe we are not so acrimonious
We have all tolerated the equal sign, I guess. Still, a wonderful, depressing, and challenging article, and post. Hard to dis.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:08 PM
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9. Tolerated?
If that's been your experience here, then I'm glad.

There've been some *VERY* harsh words and many condemnations for people who have the temerity to say such a thing.

It was just a caution........ voice of experience........

Kanary
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:43 PM
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4. only if you think 25 (hedge your bets) cents equals a dollar
Stick around I think you will find the "duopoly" talking points are going to bore the shit out of most people here. It's been done to death.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:17 PM
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2. Good article; Thanks! A comment......
I've seen parts of this before, and appreciate you posting the link to the whole thing.

Yes, it *IS* something to get angry about, and I'm grateful to Bill Moyers for speaking on this. He's certainly a lone voice in the wilderness on this issue! I not only hope that he keeps speaking on it, but that others would also take up this issue. People in poverty have been orphaned by the "libruls".

Much of this whole scenario that Moyers paints is because the DEMs have backed off their commitmen to poor volk. Clinton's cut off of welfare is certainly a good example. I sure haven't heard DEMs wanting to know more about the people who were cut off, and what's become of them. Out of sight, out of mind. I hear FDR crying.

None of this will get better -- in fact, it will continue to get worse UNLESS AND UNTIL the grassroots DEMs start demanding change in direction. If the grassroots can band together and make an issue of the war, and demand change, then they can also do that for poverty issues.

Have you seen any signs on the street, demanding resources for poor folk? Nope, me either. We can hold up signs for bringing our troops home, and saving trees, and other, sexier issues, but how long has it been since there were *real* leaders in a poverty movement, and real demands being made? It's been a desert.

Thanks for posting this......... it really helps me to know that there are a least a *few* people who care about this issue!

Bless Bill Moyers -- may he light a lot of fires!

Kanary
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venus Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:49 PM
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6. I read this article on commondreams the other day
and found it one of the most excellent pieces to date. However I didn't see any reference to Clinton cutting off welfare. Nonetheless Clinton only required people on welfare who could work to work. It created a welfare-to-work initiative. I think that's a good thing. Welfare is not meant for life time support, but as a safety net until one can do better.
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:04 PM
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8. notice that Moyers never really said Repubs, only "conservatives"
....which describes Clinton nicely.

However, I do think that welfare -- per se -- should only be for a few years. However, single men should also be able to get it, and it should be more easily accessible to everyone.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:11 PM
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10. You're really hitting my hot buttons........ hope you're prepared
You've just managed to repeat the RW "talking points", regardless of the lives you so cavalierly dismiss.

Do you realize there are REAL PEOPLE affected by your Reagan-style policies?

Do you KNOW what has happened to those people??? Do you have any idea how many of them have died?

And, no, you're completely wrong...... it was mandated for ALL.

Kanary
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uptown ruler Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 07:48 PM
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5. sweet read
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