Susan Estrich: Edwards will be VP

[H2O Man]

Susan Estrich is on the O'Reilly show now. She said she is 100% sure that John Edwards will be Kerry's VP choice. While she admits she has not had this confirmed by the Kerry campaign, she speaks of the number of high-ranking Edwards people now taking important roles in the campaign. She's a smart woman, with serious contacts. Although I have always supported Clark, I am pleased with the thought of Kerry-Edwards.

[AlCzervik]

1. Why in the name of all that's holy

would any democratic higher up from anybody's camp talk to that harpy.

[xultar]

2. Then change the subject of the thread. ;) n/t

[Stew225]

3. Yeah, I think you mistitled this bugger. eom

[Rowdyboy]

33. For Christ's sake, Clark, Edwards, Graham, Richarson....

Landrieu, Nelson, Dean, Vilsack, Kerrey, or even Gephart-they'll all be an improvement over Dick Cheney.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

41. Wouldn't Gore be the barometer by which they should be measured?

:shrug:

[hang a left]

4. I'll take anyone and everyone's $1 bet

The VP on this ticket will be Clark.

[Yupster]

9. Seems that almost every cycle

The man or woman chosen comes out of left field as a surprise.

I remember Cheney, and Gore, and Ferraro, and Kemp, and Quayle.

I always assume it will be someone that no one's thinking of.

[Hornito]

19. I hope you're right L n' P. The thought of Edwards as VP makes

me ill. What makes him, or anyone else, think he has enough experience, knowledge, and gravitas, to be president (if he was called to take over for Kerry) of this nation? I still feel the majority of his support comes from those enamored of his "pretty face".

Wes Clark would add so much more to the ticket, and would be, in my opinion, unbeatable. And if things heat up with more "terrorist" attacks and wars (a pretty sure bet, given the Bushies can't win without them), a personal injury lawyer would add little to the experience needed on the Dem ticket to overcome a Bushie military/terrorism onslaught.

Don't bother flaming me about Edwards. I've never like him, and never will. Aside from the issues I've mentioned, he voted with the Repugs to put nuclear waste in my home state (Nevada), so he can kiss my ass.

[guajira]

60. I Agree - Edwards is too Pushy and Creepy for Me!!

Hope it's Clark!!

[ShaneGR]

42. I'll take your $1 bet....

Friendly bet of course.

[hang a left]

44. Got the thread bookmarked.

Maybe I can make up this money with the money I will probably lose on my betcha Cheney won't be on the ticket come nov. bets.

:evilgrin:

[lancdem]

5. I hope so

A Kerry-Edwards ticket will kick ass.

[Lefta Dissenter]

6. Well, I'm NOT on the O'Reilly show

and I say with 100% certainty that CLARK will be the VP choice! There, now we're even! :D

(and maybe the Edwards people are just jumping ship!)

[cally]

7. At this point, I don't care who will be VP

I just want Kerry to win. I see many positives in all the potential VP nominees and I assume Kerry will pick someone who most helps the ticket. I like Edwards and I could be excited about this choice.

But....I hope she is wrong. I despise her because she sells out Dems. I just want her credibility lowered.

[xultar]

8. I'm glad Kerry is letting the Media pick his VeeP. This ought to be

fun... :evilgrin:

[chimpymustgo]

11. Calm down, Clarkies. This is just extrapolation and speculation.

You live to fight another day.

[hang a left]

14. Not a Clarkie.

It is just an obvious.

[Gloria]

10. Yup. And the highest member of the Clark campaign.....namely,

Clark himself, is the one doing all the talking on TV for Kerry.

PS...Kerry is using the eblocks that the Clark people put together and has taken on Clark people as well as Gephardt people.

[H2O Man]

12. yikes!!!!

Either (1) I'm way too tired, or (2) deep down I really want it to be Clark! Anyhow, I edited this as soon as it popped up, and I sincerely apologize for any confusion I have created! She said Edwards.

[Emboldened Chimp]

13. Kerry-Edwards = President Kerry

[disinfo_guy]

15. Edwards was just promoted at the Bilderberg meeting last month

Edwards is a "made man" now, and I'd put money on him as VP.

[hang a left]

28. Got Link? n/t

[disinfo_guy]

31. here's a few, this was discussed on DU a few weeks ago

http://www.disinformazione.it/bilderberg.htm
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/june2004/060704edwardsatbilderberg.htm
http://www.atsnn.com/story/56159.html

and some humorous disinfo from the British press about it:
http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/1/low/magazine/3773019.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/netnotes/article/0,6729,1231830,00.html

[KittyWampus]

16. Why Is Edwards Being Pushed Down Our Collective Throats?

It's just bizarre.

Someone, and I don't mean anyone with Democrats oro America's best interests at heart, wants Edwards as VP.

[chimpymustgo]

17. Do you mean, "Why do so MANY DEMOCRATS WANT EDWARDS?"

'Cause that's what it is.

[KittyWampus]

21. No, My Post Is Referring To Mediawhores Etc.

NOT Democrats... wasn't that clear?

And most of those who mention Edwards are simply responding according to name recognition.

[Hornito]

25. In your dreams....

n/t

[H2O Man]

18. Don't you think he is popular

with a large # of democrats? I'm not saying with all democrats, or with what might be known as the far left portion of the party. But, for sake of discussion, doesn't it seem like he did pretty well in some primaries?

[KittyWampus]

23. He Won Only One State

[IronLionZion]

20. the neo-cons want him

because he would be easy to bash:

channelling
lack of experience
rich
trial lawyer

[chimpymustgo]

26. Please pick up a copy of Edwards "Four Trials", so you can learn

about his cases, his skill, his compassion - and you won't write ignorant posts like this.

[IronLionZion]

47. Actually I like Edwards

but if he is chosen, they will bash the shit out of him. It is too easy.

I think there are many qualified candidates that would be harder to attack.

[AP]

51. To bash him is to introduce him to the public. It didn't work in '98.

It won't work in 2004.

My prediction: they'll try to ignore him.

They'll talk about him as little as possible, and they'll cover none of his campaign stops unless it's to mention empty seats (which, if they exist, will be because the media will ignore him and people won't know that he was having an event).

[Gloria]

45. 429..you are correct....

This is an extraordinarily orchestrated campaign, and it isn't coming just from Democrats. Mark my words.

[Hornito]

24. The same could be said about Kerry too.

n/t

[VOX]

22. Kerry + Edwards = Winner; also, Kerry + Clark = Winner...

Hard to argue with either. I do hope that it's one of these two.

[OKNancy]

27. What's so weird is that this was the ticket that

many of us...oh, maybe over a year ago were speculating about. I remember that I and blm said we thought this would be the eventual ticket. It's like the primaries never happened.

[carpetbagger]

29. Another useless tidbit of punditry.

Kerry's taken staff from all of the major campaigns for the general election. Lots of staff. Edwards ran the most level campaign and probably the best, taking Dean and Kerry's implosions, Clark's fizzle out of the starting gate, etc.

[AP]

50. Exactly. Obviously Kerry will take people from the second best campaign.

Estrich isn't that clever.

Incidentally, her husband also is a big time Disney exec (or at least he used to be).

[ShaneGR]

30. That's why the head of Kerry's Ohio campaign is Edwards Campaign Manager..

Coincidence? I think not.

[Blue-Jay]

36. Like it or not, JE plays well in Ohio.

Look at the primary results. Ohio likes John Edwards. I think that Edwards is the correct choice as a VP. He'll tear Crashcart apart in a debate.

Yes, Clarkies, Wesley would also be a wonderful choice, I'll admit. Edwards, however, will play better in Ohio and Florida.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

32. Yeah President Dukakis' manager is a brilliant observer/tactician

:eyes:

[Auntie Bush]

34. How can you be pleased with Edwards on the ticket?

:shrug: He knows diddly squat about foreign policy. That's where Kerry needs the most help. So the the polls say.

[ShaneGR]

38. Actually, the polls show....

That Edwards is favored by both Democrats and swing voters as the VP.

[Blue-Jay]

39. HOW?

Because he'll help to swing voters against Bush. That's how! Say what you will, but that's all that matters to those of us who didn't just fall off the political turnip truck.

Do politicians lie? Yep.
Do they hold their collective fingers to the wind? Certainly.
Does that suck? You bet!
Will that change my vote? Fuck no!

Baby steps...

Unfortunately, we have to take baby steps right now, the first being defeating Bush and his gang of criminals.

That doesn't mean that Kerry will get a free ride from us (much like Clinton did). Our work has just begun.

[H2O Man]

35. I'd like to comment on "trial lawyers"

I realize the neocons hate them. I know why. I don't say this for self-pity, but: I was a social worker since the early 1980s, and in 2001, while doing a "community response," I had a bank jr/vice president drive through 2 stop signs & a red light, and hit my vehicle at 55 mph. I always wanted to ride in an ambulance, but not taped to a stretcher. Long story short: my back is metal & bone paste; the county mental health clinic I worked for refused to let me return; and worker's comp, at best, treated me like a # .... but more often, as an advisary. (Every comp doctor I saw recognized that I was disabled because of the car wreck.)

Think about my social standing vs a bank VP. Example: the sheriff deputy ticketed the cell-phone using banker; the Justice of the Peace dropped the charge against the recommendationof the DA. So, the jury in my civil suit never heard about a traffic ticket.

The trial lawyer who represented me insured that I got some degree of justice. I am in chronic pain, and would way rather have my back & legs than the settlement. But this is the hand I've been dealt. I'm really happy I had a good trial lawyer. I know the bank vp hated his guts, because my attorney caught him lying over and over. The bank vp did not care about what he did to me, or to my family. The trial lawyer did. I keep this in mind when I think about edwards, and I hope that you folks will, too.

[JanMichael]

37. Well if Susan says it it must be true.

</sarky tone of voice>

That said I like Edwards, although that talking to dead people act is BS.

[ShaneGR]

40. I'm so not looking forward to Clark not getting VP....

I just can't wait for the Clark people to bash away at Edwards, Kerry, and all their supporters for a week... culminating in reconciliation like the Dean people.

[sendero]

43. I'm not going to bash anyone...

... on second thought I removed this.

[ShaneGR]

48. Well, I guess my point is...

Both Edwards and Clark are good candidates for VP, and I think it's a shame that some people find it necessary to bash away at either guy. If Clark gets it I'd be a bit disappointed Edwards didn't get it but I think it would be a good ticket anyways. Some people don't recognize we're all on the same side.

[Strelnikov_]

55. Et Tu, sgr2.

[sendero]

59. I hear ya...

... I would have preferred Clark, but that's not to say that Edwards isn't a fine choice.

At least nobody is talking about McCain :)

[David Zephyr]

46. Susan Is a "Fox Democrat"

Like Alan Colmes and Mort Kondrake who Roger Ailes pimps off to Fox white trash as Democrats.

These people sold their souls for crumbs eons ago.

[AP]

49. I don't believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

I've never liked her that much.

[radwriter0555]

52. I pissed her off at Xmas..... good fun, just freaked her out..

she laid some line on me, like how everyone in other countries hates us, and I said, "yes, everyone hates bush, that's for sure!"

she plotzed.

[Doosh]

53. This post should be moved to Campaign 2004 forum

great news anyway!

[St. Jarvitude]

54. Edwards reminds me a lot of a blue-collar JFK

So young and full of energy. There is no way that Bush can pick a guy as old and decrepit as Cheney to run with him again.

[Comicstripper]

56. Kerry and Edwards Sittin' In A Tree

You're all forgetting CHEMISTRY! The average voter doesn't care about foreign policy this, or triple-amputee that. We need a veep with pizazz! Style! Someone who could be in pictures! Someone who shines! I say, ditch Kerry all together. We need an Edwards/Fabio ticket.

[Cheswick2.0]

57. I love it when "journalists" sit around talking to each other

Maybe they should just play some I love Lucy reruns. Who could possibly care what these people have to say about anything?
We will know who it is as soon as it is announced.

[I_like_chicken]

58. I like Edwards

and I think people want to be VP because of his ablity to communicate with people. For all those who want Clark, just because hes not VP doesnt mean he wont have a cabinet position. I think he'd make a great sec. of State or Sec. of Defense.

[UTUSN]

61. EDWARDS, o.k.----------ESTRICH-(sound of "raspberry") n/t