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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:07 AM
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Imus this morning....
Anyone unlucky enough to catch Imus this morning? He had on some wacko talking head from the north east. I cannot remember his name but he is on MSNBC alot. Anyway, they spent an hour discussing whether or not Clinton still cheats on his wife and how Clinton has raped women while he was in the WH. WTF? Will it ever stop? The media plays so loosely with the facts when it comes to Clinton. But with Bush they support his lies and never hold him accountable for anything. The Arkansas Project has won!
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:11 AM
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1. Yes I turned it off
that was that plagerist Mike Barnicle.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:13 AM
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2. He had Mike Barnicle on?
He is the lowest of the low. He was busted for plagiarism and now the only place that would give him a job was the Boston Herald (Murdoch).

He's trash.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:16 AM
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5. I remember when the Herald used to be somewhat respected
that was in the old days when i was still a kid. It always ran second to the Globe. In the mid 80's The Herald switched to the easy to read format...ala tabloid, thats a hallmark in Murdoch papers. Anyway, once they switched to easy to read their circulation went up. The Herald is the paper of record for new england based morans.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:38 AM
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8. He wrote for the Globe; Howie Carr writes for the Herald
Barnicle is a shill and a loser...
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:13 AM
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3. I didn't see it this morning
but the last few times I've watched it, Imus and Bernie keep talking about Clinton raping someone. I've been wondering what the hell they are talking about... :shrug:

:wtf:
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StopThief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:15 AM
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4. Jaunita Broderick claimed that. . . .
Clinton raped her in a hotel room while he was Governor of Arkansas.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:18 AM
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6. And I made a claim last night.....
that the Cubs won the world series last year....does not mean the Cubs should now start selling CUBS 2003 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS? Believe me if the Arkansas Project thought there was even a chance that the rape allegation was true they would have gone forward with it big time....the fact that they didn't tells me it is utter BS!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:36 AM
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7. Don Imus just like bush* suffers from "dry drunk syndrom"..he is insane
Edited on Tue Jun-22-04 09:50 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
"Dry Drunk" Syndrome and George W. Bush
Dry drunk is a slang term used by members and supporters of Alcoholics Anonymous and substance abuse counselors to describe the recovering alcoholic who is no longer drinking, one who is dry, but whose thinking is clouded. Such an individual is said to be dry but not truly sober. Such an individual tends to go to extremes.

It was when I started noticing the extreme language that colored President Bush's speeches that I began to wonder. First there were the terms-- "crusade" and "infinite justice" that were later withdrawn. Next came "evil doers," "axis of evil," and "regime change", terms that have almost become clichés in the mass media. Something about the polarized thinking and the obsessive repetition reminded me of many of the recovering alcoholics/addicts I had treated. (A point worth noting is that because of the connection between addiction and "stinking thinking," relapse prevention usually consists of work in the cognitive area). Having worked with recovering alcoholics for years, I flinched at the single-mindedness and ego- and ethnocentricity in the President's speeches.
Katherine van Wormer, Professor of Social Work at the University of Northern Iowa, wrote about bush*s "dry drunk syndrom"

http://www.counterpunch.org/wormer1011.html


Addiction, Brain Damage and the President
"Dry Drunk" Syndrome and
George W. Bush
by KATHERINE van WORMER

Ordinarily I would not use this term. But when I came across the article "Dry Drunk" - - Is Bush Making a Cry for Help? in American Politics Journal by Alan Bisbort, I was ready to concede, in the case of George W. Bush, the phrase may be quite apt.

Dry drunk is a slang term used by members and supporters of Alcoholics Anonymous and substance abuse counselors to describe the recovering alcoholic who is no longer drinking, one who is dry, but whose thinking is clouded. Such an individual is said to be dry but not truly sober. Such an individual tends to go to extremes.

It was when I started noticing the extreme language that colored President Bush's speeches that I began to wonder. First there were the terms-- "crusade" and "infinite justice" that were later withdrawn. Next came "evil doers," "axis of evil," and "regime change", terms that have almost become clichés in the mass media. Something about the polarized thinking and the obsessive repetition reminded me of many of the recovering alcoholics/addicts I had treated. (A point worth noting is that because of the connection between addiction and "stinking thinking," relapse prevention usually consists of work in the cognitive area). Having worked with recovering alcoholics for years, I flinched at the single-mindedness and ego- and ethnocentricity in the President's speeches. (My husband likened his phraseology to the gardener character played by Peter Sellers in the movie, Being There). Since words are the tools, the representations, of thought, I wondered what Bush's choice of words said about where he was coming from. Or where we would be going.

First, in this essay, we will look at the characteristics of the so-called "dry drunk;" then we will see if they apply to this individual, our president; and then we will review his drinking history for the record. What is the dry drunk syndrome? "Dry drunk" traits consist of:

Exaggerated self-importance and pomposity
Grandiose behavior
A rigid, judgmental outlook
Impatience
Childish behavior
Irresponsible behavior
Irrational rationalization
Projection
Overreaction

Clearly, George W. Bush has all these traits except exaggerated self importance. He may be pompous, especially with regard to international dealings, but his actual importance hardly can be exaggerated. His power, in fact, is such that if he collapses into paranoia, a large part of the world will collapse with him. Unfortunately, there are some indications of paranoia in statements such as the following: "We must be prepared to stop rogue states and their terrorist clients before they are able to threaten or use weapons of mass destruction against the United States and our allies and friends." The trait of projection is evidenced here as well, projection of the fact that we are ready to attack onto another nation which may not be so inclined.

more...


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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 09:42 AM
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9. Imus
I usually watch the Imus in the Morning Show until he gets rude like he was this morning when someone (I don't remember his name) was trying to explain the Rowland scandal. I don't know, maybe its the time change. Also what is the story with the private detective that he has on there. All Imus does is ridicule the man!
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