Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Should we have pool: bet on how much W's poll #s drop after 1 wk of F911

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:19 PM
Original message
Should we have pool: bet on how much W's poll #s drop after 1 wk of F911
I say 4 pt drop after 1 week, 6 in 2 weeks 10 in 4 weeks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:20 PM
Response to Original message
1. 3 to 5%
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #1
15. No, start a thread about how much $$$ the movie will gross opening wknd..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. MM 's big cash-out and fame will be in the international markets,
Edited on Tue Jun-22-04 11:41 PM by peacebuzzard
and he will eventually get his respect here. I myself am looking forward to the choir's night on the town...

My bet is B*s no.s plummet to low 40s and get puffed up to an optimistic 43-44% for the pre-election weeks. ( The machine will never admit to the high 30s.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:39 PM
Response to Original message
2. Negative infinity
W will disappear into a political black hole so deep, the alphabet will only be 25 letters long, and keyboards will have to be redesigned worldwide (as preordained when W occupied the White House and found the keyboard transformation already in progress)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:43 PM
Response to Original message
3. I don't think any fundies will go to see this movie
But, independents and undecideds probably will. So, I think a one point increase every week for the first month, then reduced after that. Of course, by that time we will have the beautiful democratic convention, so we should get a bounce there. Will be hard to differentiate between the two bounces.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:45 PM
Response to Original message
4. I say it takes more time
Sure people will see it the first week, but its the people they tell about it that will lower the polls. I think it takes time for stuff to soak in.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sleepystudent Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:47 PM
Response to Original message
5. They won't drop at all...
or if they do, it will have absolutely nothing to do with Fahrenheit 9/11.

How many undecided voters do you know are going to see this? It seems like it will only be preaching to the converted, unfortunately. Its opening in around 900 theaters all over the place and unless it has a big opening weekend ( I don't mean big for a documentary,but big for any movie ) it will only last a week in places like Bible Belt cities and your garden variety suburb and will only play in the places where one would expect it to get a good reception. Moore and Bush are polarizing figures and pretty much people who like/love Moore and hate Bush are its audience. No one else. Sorry, I'm just not bullish on this movie at all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. I am more or less with you on this one............
Moore has become as polarizing as Rush; those who hold a disdainful opinion of Rush simply don't listen, the same can be said for Moore's books and films.

Sadly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #10
18. Moore topped NYT bestseller list for WEEKS, and BFC was top grossing doc
ever. Moore has a way broader and more diverse reach than Rush.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Still_Loves_John Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:49 PM
Response to Original message
6. no immediate drop
I don't think that undecideds will see this movie, because the undecideds just aren't that interested politically. I think that the way the movie can have an eventual effect is by influencing the public debate, so its message eventually gets filtered down.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. 34% of Nielsen responsdents say they'll see it. 67% have heard of it.
Those are HUGE numbers. I doubt that they only include definite Kerry voters.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Still_Loves_John Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #8
16. 34% is probably
a little less than the percentage of the population that is solidly Democratic. You proved my point.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. A lot of Dems don't go to movies. I think when 34% say they're definitely
going to see a movie, that's going to include a lot of I's.

And if the definites are 34%, the maybes are probably another 15-25%.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:51 PM
Response to Original message
7. The only group this will substantively effect is the 18-30 demographic.
Edited on Tue Jun-22-04 10:51 PM by Merlin
They will definitely see this in droves, and it will probably increase Kerry's lead among them (53%-44% now). But they don't vote in great proportions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 10:52 PM
Response to Original message
9. Plus Kerry will name a running mate on July 4th
weekend (or so many say) and I think that will cause a jump in his points from 3 to 5 percentage points.

Bush loses ground due to F 9/11.
Kerry gains ground due to a savvy VP selection.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:04 PM
Response to Original message
11. No effect after 1 week.
Only us already in the choir will see it the first week. We might get a few converts from the younger independents who see it out of curiousity. But that won't be enough to make any impact.

Longer term it's a small plus. It will give us some ammunition to throw at the Repugs. I don't see F911 as having much effect on this race--ie less than 1%.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. Do you only hang out with people with whom you agree? People don't go
to movies alone. I say a lot of people take someone who hasn't totally made up his or her mind.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:07 PM
Response to Original message
12. i think (hope) that it will have a different effect
i think it will get a lot of young people out to the polls that normally wouldnt have participated

i believe that bodes well for kerry
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-04 11:09 PM
Response to Original message
14. I say 3-4% in the first week, and that is A LOT.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 10:50 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC