Joe Wilson (rep, R- South Carolina) - NOT TORTURE? we have

[LittleApple81]

(C-Span 7:15 a.m.)
A duty to get information out of prisoners? Respecting basic principles but questioning thoroughly.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH REPUBLICANS?
This in answer to a woman saying: "what is worse? 20 hours of interrogation or a beheading?" My note: we should subject all these people to the EXACT treatment these Iraqis and Afghans were subjected to and then ask them: "Is this interrogation or torture?"

[LittleApple81]

1. UNEMPLOYMENT WAS CAUSED BY 9/11???? WTF!!!!

What is the Wilson guy implying? Is this going to be the new repug meme?

[rfranklin]

2. they worship 9/11...

they invoke its name every other moment for almost any purpose. Too warm, must be 9/11. No rain, must be 9/11. Toture? No, it's a 9/11 fraternity prank. Caught shtupping an altar boy? 9/11 changed everything.

[lectrobyte]

6. seems like I saw that one in the repub talking points the other day

[tandot]

9. someone yesterday posted the newest RW talking points

what he is saying appears to come from it:

9/11 changed everything (including the economy)

on edit: SoFlaJet posted the following link:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/atrios/Luntz.pdf

[PeanutFarmer]

10. Unemployment in the airline industry yes

The rest, not really. That started in 2000.

[Tellurian]

17. I ran across this site last night...

The similarities are astounding. The modus operandi of the Bush Administration's use of "control" over the masses could very well have been taken from this site..

At first glance, you may want to dismiss it as just another woo-hoo site. But perseverance does have it's rewards.

Scroll 3/4 down the page until you see the "Table of Strategies".

Compare what you read to what we are experiencing now. Strategic manipulation. Shifting evidence already established as empirical to mean otherwise strictly by virtue of relabeling. IOW, they keep moving the finish line the ground under the goal posts Silent Weapons Plans Don't forget to scroll 3/4 down the page until you see Table of Strategies.

[KharmaTrain]

3. Total Kool Aid...Sheesh

I know he's being trotted out to keep the sheeple in line, but as one Repug caller put it..."we've got a lot of questions".

He's hit on every strawman...hell, he could build a damn army with them.

- Saddam evil..."I saw the bodies of women with children in their arms" (that'd be worth checking out)
- 9/11 - Iraq : "world's changed"...blah, blah, blah...FEAR
- We're helping the "Good Iraqis": We don't get the entire story...yada yada spin, CYA.

I swear, he's hit every meme for the past 3 years. And, of course, when contested, will continue to ramble as though not challenged with the blast fax point.

Problem is this is a "good-ole" boy type...can lie like a rug and give you that "oh gee" smile. The GOOP has that routine down good...with deadly effect (right Lynndie???)

[LittleApple81]

4. Agent orange was a defoliant to help our soldiers. IT DIDN'T KILL AND

MAIN vietnamese by the thousands? Aren't they still suffering their effects. It is not only our soldiers (the sprayers) but the people being sprayed.
HE EVADED THIS ASPECT ALLTOGETHER. Vietnam is now our friend!!!

This guy should be non-tortured so that we can get the truth!!!!

[Bozita]

13. iirc, VietNam today leads the world in birth defects

Chlorinated hydrocarbons break down very slowly.

[Bozita]

15. Google the following: VietNam "birth defects" ...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=VietNam+%22birth+defects%22&btnG=Google+Search


 Web  Results 1 - 10 of about 20,800 for VietNam "birth defects". (0.13 seconds)  


Birth Defects among Vietnam Veterans' Children
... containing vitamins. This finding was an important unexpected benefit of our Vietnam veterans birth defects study. As time went ...
www.hhs.gov/asl/testify/t960416a.html - 18k - Jun 21, 2004 - Cached - Similar pages

Proposed Regulations Agent Orange Birth Defects, Compensation and ...
Benefits for Women Vietnam Veterans' Children With Birth Defects. Public Law 106-419. Under Public Law 106-419, VA identified the ...
www.vba.va.gov/bln/21/Topics/Women/Birth.htm - 11k - Cached - Similar pages

Birth Defects Research for Children
... The National Vietnam Veterans’ Birth Defects/Learning Disabilities Project is a cooperative effort between the Association of Birth Defect Children (ABDC ...
www.birthdefects.org/information/NVVldp.htm - 33k - Cached - Similar pages

Agent Orange effects still being felt 25 years after end of ...
... and his wife thought they had escaped the worst of the Vietnam War when ... piece of the conflict lingers inside them, showing up in the birth defects suffered by ...
www.commondreams.org/headlines/042300-01.htm - 16k - Cached - Similar pages

Birth Defects And Women Who Served In Vietnam
US Veteran Information (non-governmental). Birth Defects And Women Who Served In Vietnam. VETERAN AFFAIRS -- Sept. 1999 The only birth ...
www.tpromo.com/usvi/word8.htm - 4k - Cached - Similar pages


Agent Orange and Birth Defects Brief D1; US Military Veterans ...
... Case-Control Study of Congenital Anomalies and Vietnam Service (Birth Defects Study). ... Many Vietnam veterans have produced children with birth defects. ...
www.tpromo.com/usvi/agent-d1.htm - 15k - Cached - Similar pages
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Largest Veterans Organization in the World | Veterans | Vietnam ...
... specific to the disability and vocational training, if reasonably feasible, to the biological children of Vietnam veterans born with certain birth defects. ...
www.legion.org/ ?section=veterans&subsection=vt_vietnam&content=vt_vietnam_birthdefects - 27k - Cached - Similar pages

Birth Defects
... 2004; Birth defects of the abdomen Birth defects of the ... Jan 2004; Vietnam Veterans' Children Support Program www.healthinsite.gov.au/topics/Birth_Defects - 72k - Cached - Similar pages

birth defects on Encyclopedia.com
... A US VIETNAM WAR VETERAN MEETS A VIETNAMESE CHILD SUFFERING BIRTH DEFECTS Date: 01/04/1999; Reading Level: 9. Publication: Reuters News Pictures Service; Author ...
www.encyclopedia.com/html/b1/birthd.asp - 48k - Cached - Similar pages

VVAA Media Release - 28 March 1996 - Agent Orange Birth Defects
... The National President of the Vietnam Veterans Association of Australia (VVAA), Mr John ... of a review of the link between Agent Orange and child birth defects. ...
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[vetwife]

20. All he did was dance and avoid my question !

He looked stupid !

[LittleApple81]

5. LIBYA??? When is somebody going to say: Kadaffi started the

process before the Iraqi war? He communicated with the Europeans first, not the USA. I am sure the arms are being inspected in the States because other countries do not want to get involved in this "inspection".
HE IS SAYING IT IS BECAUSE OF OUR COURAGEOUS president and it would not have occurred without the war. PLEASE!!!

[izzie]

7. Like saying you can only beat your children to make then mind.

And only if you do not kill them unless you did not mean to kill them. Wifes most likely fit in here with these people also.

[LittleApple81]

8. $20 BILLION for reconstruction compared to Marshall Plan...WTF?

If I am not mistaken, there were RULES established so that PROFITEERS would not totally take over the reconstruction process, and Europeans conducted much of the work. HERE WE ARE PAYING HALLIBURTON AND OTHER CRIMINALS to steal our money!!!!!

[Jacobin]

11. We have a duty to stomp people to death?

Attach electrodes to their genitals?
Pull their shoulders out of their sockets?
Drown them?

Not in my country we don't.

Fascist pricks should all be imprisoned.

[LittleApple81]

12. My thoughts exactly. Maybe I missed it but I don't remember CHRIST

torturing anybody. How can they say they are followers of Christ?

[TreeHuggingLiberal]

14. Wilson was spewing lie after lie after lie...

I tried to get through for around 20 minutes after I heard the one caller get cut off when he mentioned the neocons and the preferencial treatment of Israel. The host cut him off right as he was in the middle of mentioning the neoconservatives running our gov't. I just wanted to ask why callers and guests that would completely make up information would be able to talk and talk, but when someone mentions something that is actually true he is cut off mid-sentence.

[John_Shadows_1]

16. Man, I'm glad Joe Wilson is my congressman ....

... this is how dumb a lot of people are down here - he knows that he can get away with saying stuff like this, because people just believe anything the Republicans say.

Ain't it great?

[GreenPartyVoter]

18. Please, please, please. Fire the guy? Run for office

yourself!

[Tellurian]

19. kick

:kick: