Deleted message

[Name removed]

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Beetwasher]

1. Ummm, So, Will We Hear From The "DU"ers Who Are

always outraged over OUR use of Hitler/Nazi comparisons???

That ad is insane, are they actually running it on TV???

[classof56]

2. Well, now...nice ad for the Dems, I'd say! Thank you, Mr. Bush. n/t

[hang a left]

3. IMO

That is a great commercial for Kerry.

[tandot]

4. So, these Fascists are comparing Kerry with Hitler?

Oh - My - GOD ...

However is in charge of Bush's campaign needs to be committed to a mental hospital. They are really losing it.


On edit:
I watched it again. It really looks like a great ad FOR Kerry. The shot where Bush is shown right after Hitler...well, Bush looked like he is doing the "nazi salute" ... or am I wrong?

[LuminousX]

5. Holy Moses

They are losing it over there. There are more pictures of Kerry on the Bush site then there are of Bush. LOL Even they know that Kerry is going to win.

[w13rd0]

6. Wow...

...of course, there's NO refutation of anything stated by any of the persons in that video. And of course, running the shots of Bush morphing into Hitler, yeah, that sure makes a point. Lots of people aren't very happy with "Mr. Optimism Head-in-the-Sand-and-Oil Bush"...

[Ohio Dem]

7. Don't really see anything one there about Bush.

They must not have anything to say about their own boy. Not that I blame them.

[sangh0]

13. And all preceded by the words

"This is not a time for pessimism and rage" (followed by examples of why Bush* is pessimistic and enraged)

[Poisonskin_com]

8. Well

That was nice and insane.

What the fuck?

[redqueen]

15. Hi Poisonskin_com!

Welcome to DU!
:hi:

[robbedvoter]

9. Ha!Ha! Loved the Kerry joke at the end! The ad/website say "opposition"

They are preparing themselves for POTUS Kerry.

[jokerman93]

27. you could be right about that

No joke. If they know they're toast, then the thing to do would be to use the campaign to establish psychological links in their base, between the worst evil possible (Hitler) and the "libruls".

If Kerry wins, they'll have their sitting army of dumb eschatalogical brown shirts ready to fight "evil" right here at home.

Do I put it past them? No. Because they are playing for the World, and they are playing to win. And for keeps.

[Dr.Phool]

10. They're definatly losing it

Kerry should run the ad.

[Democat]

11. If Kerry put Hitler on the front of his site it would be a major scandal!

Where the hell is the media?

Kerry should send out a press release on this.

I thought the right wing was outraged when anyone mentioned Hitler.

As far as the ad, it looks like a parody. Was it produced by the Onion staff?

[LuminousX]

14. I thought the same thing

I double checked the site just to make sure I wasn't at a satire of the Bush campaign site.

[meegbear]

12. They're promoting astroturf!

http://www.georgewbush.com/GetActive/WriteNewspapers.aspx

Write a letter to the editor using the form below. Click on the tabs to get writing tips or a sample letter.

[MaryH]

17. I Don't have Speakers but

was there really a picture there that looked like Bush with his arm in the air just like Hitler?

They are spending a lot of money for those ads. Someone really should look at them before they are distributed.

[LuminousX]

16. Anyone else...

Anyone else get the feeling phrase "Yes, America Can" refers to torture and war crimes, violations of the Constitution/Bill of Rights, and general assholery? At least, from Bush's perspective?

[Kilroy003]

18. That was strikingly odd and unusual.

I don't get it, can somebody explain what this is supposed to mean? Perhaps it was put up on the site by accident. Is this a setup?

[Pillowbiter]

19. Wow, President Gore rocked in that ad.

It's funny, everything was full of life and passion in that ad (the non-nazi parts that is) until Bush's picture appeared. At that point the elevator music started as the sleeping gas filled the room.

PB

[tishaLA]

20. Let's write the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences

(the Oscar people) who wouldn't let Moore use footage from his Oscar acceptance speech in F9/11, but there IS footage in that Bush ad. I'm sure they'd have LOTS of concerns about copyright infringement. They would probably have to pull the whole thing down to remove the seven seconds of Moore from the piece.

[tishaLA]

28. Email to the academy

I am writing to you because of a current advertisement using footage from the 2003 Oscar telecast. The advertisement is available on http://www.georgewbush.com/Default.aspx and it features seven seconds of Michael Moore's Oscar acceptance speech, where he decries the "fictitious administration"; the Bush campaign is using it for political purposes, although Mr. Moore has said the Academy would not allow him to use footage from the telecast for his film Fahrenheit 9/11. I hope you will stop this usage of Mr. Moore's image (and, indeed, of the Oscar telecast) for political purposes.

Best,

[jokerman93]

21. ummm...

OK...

All they got now is some dead president's (Reagan's) second-hand optimism to go on? Sheesh. Some intern must have brain-stormed this "optimism thing" two weeks ago watching that endless Reagan frottage fest they pummeled America with.

So...we should really vote for Kerry. Is that the point?

[Tatiana]

22. OMFG these people are IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Their own video proves our point.

[slinkerwink]

29. hahaha, I hope this runs on TV!

[Tatiana]

38. So do I!

Perhaps more Republicans will make the decision not to vote for Bush after watching the similarities between Bush and Hitler. Perhaps independents will become inspired by the fire, passion, and conviction of President Gore to vote for Kerry.

[elf]

23. This backfires in my opinion!!!!!!!!!

good for Kerry!:bounce:

[knight_of_the_star]

24. That's a stupid ad on their part

Thanks Mr. Bush for the free publicity, not to mention the total lacking of any facts and proving that you are so desperate in your campaign that you can't run on your own record.

[redqueen]

25. Just called CNN

Demanded coverage. If it's a big huge deal when some member of an activist group does it, it should be a national scandal when the Bush/Cheney campaign does it.

404-827-1500

[knight_of_the_star]

30. Doing that right now

I'm going to demand that they cover this ASAP considering the kind of things that were covered on MoveOn's ad, this is far worse.

[apnu]

45. let us know what CNN has to say, pleas. n/t

[redqueen]

61. They told me

'we'll pass your comments along'

I think it helps if lots and lots and lots of people call, write, and e-mail.

[Blue_Roses]

26. that has to be the most stupid ad I have ever seen and it does

look like Bush is doing a "heil Hitler" in one of those shots...the one right after Hitler...what a piece of crap.

[tandot]

34. I've noticed that too...and as w13rd0 mentions, it looks like

"Bush morphing into Hitler" (or Hitler morphing into Bush?) and than Bush doing the "Heil Hitler"

CAN ANYONE PLEASE SAVE THIS CLIP? IS THAT POSSIBLE? PLEASE!

[kiahzero]

31. Some seem to have missed the premise

The idea is that "those crazy Democrats are mad, but you should be happy and vote for the optimist!"

The included shots of Hitler+Bush are the two ads submitted to MoveOn.org that were rejected from the "Bush in 30 Seconds" campaign. So I don't see how they can get away with the "sponsored by MoveOn.org" business on one of them, because they never were sponsored by MoveOn... that could be libel.

[Tatiana]

41. I get the premise of the video.

But the video does not back up the premise. The Democrats seem passionate and determined to fight for the average American, IMO.

[kiahzero]

53. No kidding

I didn't say I agreed with the premise. But the people who were arguing that Bush was comparing Kerry and others to Hitler didn't seem to understand at all.

[Tatiana]

54. Ohhhhh, I getcha!

I thought the point of the video was obvious - to paint us as "wild-eyed" loonies. The footage, however, shows Dems to be anything but that.

I hope this airs.

[TNOE]

32. I Love IT

President Gore is so passionate telling the DAMNED truth - this ad would definitely give me pause (as a Republican) as to which party I wanted to identify myself with - and it ain't Bush's.

[Cat Atomic]

33. Aren't they just showing the MoveOn.org ad?

Seems like they're *trying* to capitalize on the "scandal" of the Hitler-themed MoveOn.org submission. But the editing is so inept, it actually makes it look like:

"The critics were right, and Bush is Hitler. Now choose between Kerry or Hitler."

Hehe. Dipshits. This is what happens when you stifle creativity. Your creative efforts turn out shitty.

[Th1onein]

35. Sounds like fundie music at the end.........this is an ad for Kerry, not *

eom

[Sophree]

70. That music at the end is CREEPY.

Especially creepy considering the footage it follows.

That has to be the strangest and most desperate political ad I have ever seen.

[slinkerwink]

36. I've watched that internet ad four times, and it's still puzzling

at how well the dems come off in the ad, and how badly bush looks, lol. This is on his own webpage?

[VOX]

52. I thought the *same* thing, slink!

I played it over and over, and I kept thinking -- Gee, the Democrats are looking good.

But I suppose that the Bush faithful will see it the way that they want to, though.

[slinkerwink]

56. heh....and I wonder what swing voters will think of this ad?

[Sophree]

72. I don't think too many swing voters

Or many Americans, for that matter have hear Gore's speech. That line is the most serious, dead-on criticism of the Bush admin. and Abu Ghraib that I have heard.

I hope they run this ad. On balance, I think it's MUCH more detrimental to their side than ours.

[opihimoimoi]

37. Bwaaaahahahaha

Pure shit and smells to high Heaven.

Pessimism? Kerry? He is the brightest thing on the Horizon.

Certainly we cannot be Optimistic about Bush; check out what he did while at the helm for 3 years. Our ship, USS America, is on the friggen reef. and Bush and the First mate is on the only lifeboat leaving the crew to flounder.

Bush is Capt ShitHead, worst of the worst. In Nam, the he wouldn't have lasted 4 nano seconds in the paddies.

[redqueen]

39. TERROR! FEAR! MUSHROOM CLOUDS! SUITCASE NUKES!

DUCT TAPE!

PLASTIC SHEETING!

TIPS! TIA! MATRIX!

yeah, real optimists in that group.

:eyes:

[myrna minx]

40. OK-who put drugs in my afternoon Coke?

That was craaaaazzzzzyyyyy. :silly:

[TNOE]

43. LOL

Myrna - made me laugh. I just happen to be drinking a Diet Coke myself (which I ALMOST never do) - so maybe I've been drugged too! Must be it............. nah, they're are just complete ignorant fools.

[SiouxJ]

42. Ok, so because Kerry refuses to go negative,

they're gonna do it for him? Since Kerry hasn't sunk to their level in his ads, they're gonna do it for him? I guess, hoping to confuse who's campaign is more negative. They realize they blew it by going down that road at first and now they're trying to make people think Kerry did too. Total desperation. How sad and pathetic.

The end is such a "My Pet Goat" moment too, lol. There's all this chaos going on and here's the optimistic pResident living in his rose colored glasses world, lol.

[Vickers]

44. OK, I found an old lamp, and here are my 3 wishes:

1. That nutcase judge Moore runs for President, too.

2. My cute neighbor washes her car in a thong this weekend.

3. They run that commercial a thousand times in the next week.

[TNOE]

46. Well if this is the way we get to play:

My first 3 wishes:

1. Bush/Cheney/Rove/Wolfowitz/Rumsfeld/Rice - all arrested and taken from the White House while the American people through rotten tomatoes at them and it is broadcast worldwide. Al Gore steps in temporarily and apologizes to the World and promises to make amends in all areas Bush & Co. fucked up.

2. Bush/Cheney/Rove/Wolfowitz/Rumsfeld/Rice are found guilty of war crimes and treason against the United States and sentenced to die. Hannity, Coulter, O'Reily, Scarborough, et al get charged for repeatedly being apologists for this Administration and each be forced to serve 10 year sentences for their crime.

3. Wish for 3 more wishes.

4. Me win huge multi-million $$ lottery, lots and lots of millions. Also, that Brad Pitt will realize his terrible mistake in marrying Jennifer Aniston and come find me.

5. Wish that these past 3 1/2 years didn't happen, it was just all a bad dream and actually Gore was President and America was enjoying peace and prosperity, no war, no 9/11, life is good.

6. And that they run this commercial a thousand times until November.

[ckdexter]

47. You sure this isn't a prank?

Hi, I'm new here, but I couldn't resist jumping in. I love the forum--very addictive reading.

I can't help thinking the Moveon clips aren't supposed to be in the ad. They just don't fit with the theme of shots of angry yelling democrats. The bit with hitler and bush ("what were war crimes in 1945 - foreign policy in 2003") and the raving hitler speech subtitled with a Bush quote ("God told me to strike Al Quaida...") are just too weird. It seems unlikely they'd put that footage in without context (such as "here's what those crazy mean evil democrats said in a commercial"). Is it possible that someone hacked their site and replaced the original ad with an altered version?

[TNOE]

49. As everything in this alternate Universe

we live in now - one has to question - is it real or are they really this damn dumb? Who knows, but probably the latter.

Welcome to DU :hi: - Glad you are here!

[newyawker99]

63. Hi ckdexter!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[moondust]

48. Hilarious!

That's not just desperation. That's delirium.

[JI7]

50. HHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAH

too funny. notice none of it is about anything positive bush has done. it screams "i may have a crappy record, but those democrats are bad people".

[VOX]

51. They're trying to re-contextualize the MoveOn.org ad...

The very ad that right wingers have used to target MoveOn.org -- "Oh, yeah, that's the group that compares Bush to Hitler!"

Interesting ploy -- if you call the GOP on this, they'll simply say, "Hey, we're just showing how hateful the MoveOn ad is," when in fact they're re-contextualizing it to infer that Democrats who speak with passion and emotion are reminiscent of Hitler.

MoveOn should deploy a phalanx of lawyers on this, immediately.

[mitchum]

55. How can anyone claim that Karl Rove is a freakin' genius?

Hell, I would pony up some $$$ in order to get that ad on television.

[Ugnmoose]

57. This is totally lame

I can only think that it will appeal to the most hardcore die-hard supporters. I can see the reaction now...isn't it disgraceful how these people attack us and for no reason whatsoever. They are all just a bunch of unpatriotic scabs.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

59. When I watched this despicable piece of do-do

the first time, I was screaming at my computer. The second time around I just got damned angry and thought how dare they put something like this on the Web.

Smirky, et al, have no shame. What about the vets from WWII that are still alive? What do you think they'll think about this? I'm sure there are still some Democratic WWII vets still alive and I don't think they'll be too happy with being called Nazis. Just my .02

[americanstranger]

58. Web-only ad.

It'll never show on television - notice there's no 'I'm George W. Bush, and i approved this ad' on it.

It's not meant for TV - it's red meat for the droolings fascist groupies.

Besides, it blows.

-as

[VolcanoJen]

60. Pardon the language, but that is just so fuckin' sick.

I literally got a chill while watching it. Utterly disturbing, embarrassing, and certainly unworthy of the Office of the Presidency.

A bunch of whacked-out, demented, power-crazed assholes are running that campaign, apparently. Of course, we knew that already.

[neuvocat]

62. Awww! It won't play for me.

I'm sad.

[kiahzero]

64. "Coalition of the Wild-Eyed" is the new talking point

Matthew Dowd is spewing the moronic talking point now.

[FarLeftRage]

65. b*sh is a nazi?

That's what this ad is saying to me...

der fuerher bushler has lost it!

[ScreamingMeemie]

66. I think you are right. I cannot see that helping him in the least.

If anything, maybe it'll turn some more against. :hi:

[killbotfactory]

67. Are they fucking high?

No, seriously... they're on goofballs or something. Wasn't Moveon attacked because someone sent in a contest entry comparing Bush to Hitler? This is on their own goddamned website. Karl Rove must be doing some serious crack.

This makes them look like shit.

[AussieInCA]

68. LOL - they must be using freepers as focus groups now hahahahah

[Taylor Mason Powell]

69. Oh my lord! You guys aren't exaggerating!

I finally got to watch it and it IS a GREAT commercial - for the Dems! Jeez, it's almost like (as some have speculated) Bush* is actively trying to lose the election.

Anybody who thinks that this ad will in any way shape or form help Bush*, well, I'd like some of whatever they're smoking!

We should all pose as Bush-supporters and try to convince Rove and Co. to run it on TV. :-)

[cease_fire]

71. What a bunch of inept leaders!

These guys might just be totally retarded.

Why in the world would you assemble the most provactive political figures, all railing (with applause) and superimpose images of **** and think, EVEN FOR A SECOND, that this would generate support?

What incredible, braze stupidity!

Who is the woorld isn't going to get more out of an impassioned speach vs. a ticking, stuttering baffon of a leader that couldn't pronounce a word with more than 4 syllalbles in it - unless it's a baseball players name