54 % think the war in Iraq was a MISTAKE?...that's the wrong word

[mopaul]

anytime a politician is caught with his pants down, or his hands in the treasury, he'll always say, 'I made some mistakes'.

and anytime a murderer is caught he'll say the same thing, 'mistakes were made'.

the lies about going to iraq for war were not a mistake. they were deliberate war crimes against the whole world, not mistakes. the bushco monsters were not mistaken about their war intelligence, and they were not making mistakes when they told all those lies and sent off our sons and daughters to die. 30,000 innocent iraqis did not die over mistakes, they died over war crimes committed by our american nazis in the white house.

this whole grotesque obscenity is anything but a mistake, and we the people could never get away with such mistakes.

the poll question might better have said, 'do you think going to iraq was a humongous treasonous warcrime of monumentally historic proportions?'

[hermetic]

1. Yes.

[jobycom]

2. Amen. But it was a mistake, too

I agree 100%. It was more than a mistake, it was a horrendous moral wrong, an atrocity that will mar this nation like our actions against Viet Nam and the American Indians have.

But it was also a tactical, foreign policy, and economic mistake. You can't just lop off the head of another nation and expect everything to suddenly get better. The change has to come from within, and below. You can't bully the rest of the world, or they will decide they don't need you. And you can't capture the world's oil and expect to prosper from it. James Kenneth Galbraith compares Bush's thinking in Iraq to Philip II's attempt to conquer the world's gold supply. That failed, and brought his nation down with it, because the value of gold or oil or squiggly jello candy depends only on the rest of the world's desire and ability to pay for it. Economies grow from the bottom, both in supply and demand. We need a president who gets that, either intellectually or instinctively.

[jobycom]

3. Amen. But it was a mistake, too

I agree 100%. It was more than a mistake, it was a horrendous moral wrong, an atrocity that will mar this nation like our actions against Viet Nam and the American Indians have.

But it was also a tactical, foreign policy, and economic mistake. You can't just lop off the head of another nation and expect everything to suddenly get better. The change has to come from within, and below. You can't bully the rest of the world, or they will decide they don't need you. And you can't capture the world's oil and expect to prosper from it. James Kenneth Galbraith compares Bush's thinking in Iraq to Philip II's attempt to conquer the world's gold supply. That failed, and brought his nation down with it, because the value of gold or oil or squiggly jello candy depends only on the rest of the world's desire and ability to pay for it. Economies grow from the bottom, both in supply and demand. We need a president who gets that, either intellectually or instinctively.

[wtmusic]

4. A not-so-subtle shifting of the debate

away from culpability

[Swamp Rat]

6. Very good point

You can see the Pravda already helping Bush lay out his escape plan. This is why I say corporate media and many "journalists" are guilty of war crimes through complicity.

[Make7]

5. euphemism

It always upsets me when I hear someone refer to the Vietnam War as a mistake. Killing millions of people over many years is not a mistake, it is a deliberate policy. The same is true of the current war, it was a deliberate policy decision.

Quote:
"Do you think going to iraq was a humongous treasonous warcrime of monumentally historic proportions?" - mopaul

Put down one for yes.

-Make7

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. Right up there with "collateral damage".

Others that deserve mention:

"We regret.."
"We are investigating.."
"Unfortunate incident.."