Oh-oh, here it comes

[ewagner]

Surfing through the channels this am...saw Neil Cavuto' lead-in for his show on Faux.

He said, in effect: The costs of the power outage are more than we previously estimated, and (his question) Will the expensive power outage slowdown or derail the economic recovery?

Okay...so here's how it's playing out. The economy is in the tank and Dubya's plan (tax cut, tax cut, tax cut) would have worked if it hadn't been for that damned power outage. See? The bad economy before the election isn't Dubya's fault.

Spin, spin, spin spin.......

FAUx...fairly balanced towards Bush

[Kamika]

1. hey clintons fault

And since it was clintons fault(the power) the bad economy is clintons fault !!

whopidoo!

[w13rd0]

2. In 20 years...

...I hope that my children are able to look back on this period of time as a rather bumpy start to a new millenia under the misguided "leadership" of religiously insane, power-mad corporate socialists with an authoritarian bent. It'll be an interesting study in sociology, how a small group of well-funded criminals took over and perverted what was, to that point, a noble experiment, during a period of vulnerability in adapting to changing times. Then again, in 20 years, we may just think of the Bush regime as that time during which the USA "jumped the shark"...

[Kathy in Cambridge]

4. If Shrub's cohorts are writing the history books

then all the blame will fall on Clinton.

[cosmicdot]

5. isn't brother Neil already working on "presenting" history?

with the business he put together using Poppy's tax-paid
office in Houston which isn't being used anyhoo

http://www.ignitelearning.com/index.shtml

I'm leaning toward jump the shark, 'cause my INFP intuition isn't picking up on us turning the tide on this beast -- I think, everything taken as a whole, things are beyond that hope ...

[tibbiit]

13. Cosmicdot I am INFP too (so is spouse & only 2% of world population:)

Healer Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in striving for their ends, and informative and introverted in their
interpersonal relations. Healer present a seemingly tranquil, and noticiably pleasant face to the world, and though to all
appearances they might seem reserved, and even shy, on the inside they are anything but reserved, having a capacity for caring
not always found in other types. They care deeply-indeed, passionately-about a few special persons or a favorite cause, and
their fervent aim is to bring peace and integrity to their loved ones and the world.

http://keirsey.com/

I have thought for the longest time that the Neo-Cons and many right wing and (fake) religious
morality czars are all J's!!! as opposed to being P's. (actually I think many are S/J's?)

Judgment or Perception (J/P)

Excerpted from Please Understand Me II, by David Keirsey
Copyrighted © 1998, all rights reserved

Myers claimed that she confined her usage of the word "judgment" (J) to mean "coming to a conclusion," but again and again
she used "judgment" to describe people who make and keep schedules in their daily lives. Myers also used the word
"perception" (P) to describe people who prefer to probe for options and thus not be tied to a schedule.

In other words, Schedulers are judicious about schedules, Probers perceptive of options. Schedulers make agendas,
timetables, programs, lists, syllabi, calendars, outlines, registers, and so on, for themselves and others to follow; Probers keep
their eyes open for chances to do things they want to, for opportunities and alternatives they might avail themselves of. Each
orientation has problems. By committing themselves to a set agenda, Schedulers tend to stop looking for alternatives and
options and so may never know what they're missing. By keeping their options open Probers are reluctant to commit themselves
to schedules and so are inclined to miss deadlines and leave tasks unfinished. (I think when bush is left oto his own
devices he is a P in his personal life, but in his current Job/Life, his handlers are all J's, and so is he)

Unfortunately, the difference between Schedulers and Probers can be a source of irritation in personal relationships, both in the
home and the workplace, the latter where opposites must work together to accomplish a task. (No shit! so true--I speak as a P and
usualy P's let the J's have their way because they behave so badly if you dont hehe) lol

[realFedUp]

8. Lynne Cheney's job to re-characterize Clintons and Bush histories

btw...is National Geographic Publishing a conservatively
owned business?

[Cronus Protagonist]

12. There's NOTHING socialist about * or his administration

If you meant neo-nazi that's a whole different thing.


Fair & Balanced Buttons — The Cronus Connection

[FubarFly]

3. Yes, Shrub's master plan of not preparing for contingencies at a time...

when most American's expect another terrorist attack is brilliant.

Only the most gullible of American's will accept this excuse...

oh wait, that's most of us. :evilfrown:

[dbt]

6. WHAT Economic Recovery?

Where the F*CK is it? And I'm NOT talking about the one that the top one per cent of the population has been enjoying since bu$h (literally) took office.

I mean the economic recovery that working people are supposed to be enjoying. Where is it?!?!?

:freak:
dbt

And how can it be derailed if it ain't left the station yet?

[ewagner]

11. You know

You know...the economic recovery that dubya keeps telling us is occurring? Its the same one that was placed into the report of his economic advisors, after the truth was ...uuummmmm...is redacted a good word?

on edit: that's the point, or as an old joke went:

Q: "How do you spell the 'fuck' in 'recovery?"

A: "There ain't no 'fuck' in recovery."

R: "THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU!"

[Robin Hood]

7. I have heard another spin

That the power outage is an example of why we need nuclear power plants.

[karlschneider]

9. Well, actually there's more than enough generating capacity, the problem

is the delivery/distribution system.

[Robin Hood]

10. Agreed,

But the Admin is using this as another opportunity to push their agenda.

[PATRICK]

14. delivery/distribution

meant ENRON or nothing. And since no Enron at the moment...

[ewagner]

16. What about the "new"

Energy companies?

Under the first waves of deregulation as I understand it, a lot of energy companies sold off their distribution systems to companies which were really partnerships or wholly owned subsidiaries of the existing corps. These new corps were then allowed to charge the individual utilities almost anything they wanted to transmit their power over their lines.....the rate-apyer was on the wrong end of that food chain.

Alliant is the one that operates in Wisconsin and has the major share of the distribution market.

[PurityOfEssence]

15. the "excuse" administration

nothing is every their fault. Everything that goes well is by design and thanks to their genius.