Anyone else feel that Michael Moore didn't make this movie for us?

[Tweed]

I left the movie thinking "He left out so much!". Then after talking to my girlfriend about it, I came to realize that Moore made this movie with the "target" being poor religious Southerns. Corporate corruption with Arabs and explotation of the poor won't sit well with them. The movie takes Bush out of his "common" guy charm and shows him as the total jerk he is. He also focuses on one religious mother who lost a son in the war. This movie was defintley not preaching to the choir. As a choir member, I felt happy and outraged, but at the same time I wanted him to dig deeper in some things. Things like weapons of mass desturction, Iraq-Al Qaeda connection, etc. I guess those things have been overdone in the media. Hopefully his message gets through to the target and even makes some Bush states battleground states.

[TrogL]

1. I haven't been to Michigan in a long time

He's right - it looks like a war zone.

I can imagine the South looks as bad or worse.

People are not going to be amused that Dubya thinks his base is rich white guys - not Joe Sixpack.

[anarchy1999]

6. That was beautiful!

"..the haves and the have mores, some call you the elite, I call you my base!"

What more could the Democrats ask for in a campaign ad?

[DEMVET-USMC]

2. NO

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

3. BINGO!!!

This post is what you call the hammer hitting the nail on the head. I, too, thought about all he could have gone into, but it would have been a six or seven hour movie in that case!

And I really think you are right, he is NOT preaching to the choir with this movie. He is preaching to the fence sitters and the apolitical.

[nolabels]

5. A 24 / 7 365 would be more like it

When did it stop anyway? :argh:

[anarchy1999]

7. I guess you might be just a little wound up or you're like me and not

getting alot of sleep these days? Once again, loved your report from Plano. Makes me almost wish we'd dared to go there, on reflection, no I don't. Glad you were there representing though!

[izzie]

10. But do they vote and will the right people see this?

I want to see this movie but I am part of the base..I also like to sit on fence and watch both sides but in the end I know what I believe and how I will vote. In some ways it is our talk radio. If only the people who believe it, see it. It is why people like Rush, he tells them what they wish to hear.Course it does put it all in one place and that has to be good.

[Kenergy]

4. If Moore had examined

everything Bush has done wrong, the movie would have been
4 years long :-)

[leftistagitator]

8. It wasn't aimed at us.

It was aimed at those who weren't paying attention. There was nothing there that suprised me, nothing which any DUer shouldn't have already known about. Even so, it was powerful, and extremely well put together with enough humor to keep your spirits up and enough suffering to piss you off. Now the undecideds will get a chance to see what the media has been hiding for the past few years, and just why we liberals are so "wild-eyed" about this dillhole they think is the president.

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. Yes, but will they be able to see it?

I haven't seen it yet (waiting for the crowds to go down a bit). But if that is in fact his target audience, will those areas even allow it to be shown?

[Kinkistyle]

11. You may have heard about all that stuff, but did you actually see it?

Michael Moore went out and collected all the great little video clips and snuck a cameraman out to Iraq to get never-before-seen footage. I think that in and of itself should make the movie worth seeing.

Its one thing to hear about and believe the horrors out of Abu-Ghraib. Its another thing to see the actual pictures.

[Jose Diablo]

12. Who is in the choir and who is in the pews?

Sure enough a surface target could be the outwardly racists and bigots. But before we puff ourselves up with our feelings of how right and moral we in the choir feel about ourselves, lets look at some of the "deeper" targets.

Did anyone notice the race of Lila's husband? You remember they were sitting on the couch together as she was weeping for their lost son.

Then there is the beginning scenes of the lame senate where not even one senator would sign on to rule on the election validity when the voter disenfranchisement of black voters in the 2000 election was pointed out. All this because Dashe and companies decided to sacrifice the black voters to keep their positions on the various committees. So much for ideals.

Now think about Reagan and why he was so popular. What elements within the American soul did he appeal?

Does the American intelligenza really care about the poor "white trash" living in some shit hole trailer park, or are more "higher" issues to be dealt with first. Am I the only one that remembers the hate directed at those that like NASCAR racing. The stereotyping.

Lets be honest now. This is a core question that gets right to the core of the American "experiment". Is it possible to establish a country based on egalitarian principles, when humans by their basic nature hate those that are different?

The hate is real and if we are human, we have it, as well as the love.

Would you personally give your blessing as a parent to a son or daughter that fell in love with somebody of another race and within your heart welcome that "other" into your family? Be honest now. I am not asking about what you would say, but what you would feel in the darkest corners of your heart.

The "elites" are experts at keeping people divided. Using human nature to divide those that you wish to subjugate is as old as the hills. You might say, you can define people by what they hate as well as what they love.

That's what I saw in the movie. Moore exposed the hate that exists in all people and how the "elites" use this hate against us.