How will F911 play with Nader supporters?

[RummyTheDummy]

I was thinking about the ramifications as I was watching it last night. I wonder if the film had any effect on them as far as crystalizing what we ALL are up against?

I know a couple of guys who voted for Nader and after talking to them today after they saw the film, they're seriously on the fence.

Thoughts anyone?

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. I think it might push some third and indy voters over the fence

to and vote Dem rather than risk letting Bu$h win.

[morgan2]

2. the congressional black caucus scene

shows again how pathetic and hopeless the Democratic party is.

[RummyTheDummy]

4. I disagree with your assesment of the party

But I do agree that scene won't do Kerry any favors. Of course it's only what, two percent of the movie? As upsetting as that part was, there were at least a dozen more scenes that were infinitely more disturbing.

[Sparkly]

17. The Congressional Black Caucus is made of Democrats

They are hardly "pathetic and hopeless." I wrote to them on that day and told them they speak for me and give me hope.

[Still_Loves_John]

21. of course, now the CBC is petitioning Nader

to drop out of the race. He won't listen to them either...

[Still_Loves_John]

3. I saw it with a Nader supporter

and he said that now there is no way that he's voting for Nader. He also said that this movie gave him a newfound sympathy for the troops. So suck it, rightwingers who think it's unpatriotic!

[southernleftylady]

5. I know my sister voted for nadar last election..

but even before this movie she was going to vote for ABB. She is so mad at herself for throwing away her vote last time. She is going to see 9/11 with me tomm!

[GreenPartyVoter]

6. Please let her know that there are people working for

election reform in this country, and that she can be one of them? (and so can you. :) )

[Pastiche423]

25. ABB = Nader

[NNadir]

7. Um, F/911 was written and directed by a Nader supporter.

For all of his alleged familiarity with Bush, Moore still supported the psychotic Repuke CNN whore hypocrite for President in 2000.

[RummyTheDummy]

10. Old news

Moore supported Wes Clark in the primaries this year.

[NNadir]

18. Of course if he'd a brain in 2000 he wouldn't have given legitimacy to the

senile old Repuke propagandist Nader.

I love arsonists who want to be celebrated for their heroism in putting out fires.

If some one had followed the hypocritical old sick Repuke Nader with a camera in 2000 and shown who he is, if someone had examined the hypocricy of Naderists, if someone had examined Nader's lies, maybe the country would be blissfully unaware of the incredible human tragedy we would have missed, but we would in fact live in a far more decent world.

I'm glad that Moore's film is hurting Bush, but the fact is that Moore no more deserves uncritical praise than Bush himself. He supported the Repukes in 2000. Given what happened, that is almost unforgivable.

[Cat Atomic]

8. I went with former Nader supporters. I am one myself.

We all generally vote Green.

I can tell you it made me more disgusted with the Democratic Party, and more willing to vote for Kerry at the same time. Bush is just that bad.

We all left saying this country needs a viable labor party, but that it's a fight that should be resumed after November.

[Deja Q]

11. Yes, we need a viable labor party. Trouble is, can we wait 4.6 years?

By then we'll be a McNation of JC Pennyvilles, given the rate of middle class jobs going out the door, with CEO profits and salaries still going up with product prices remaining the same...

Like I said. Our page is about to be turned.

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. Exactly. It's not that we love Kerry more now, but that we hate * more.

Enough to vote Dem across the federal level of the ticket.

[madrchsod]

24. labor party?? you are

talking my language cat atomic. we need a party who gives a shit about the working class.

[Deja Q]

9. Let's hope they go for the lesser of three evils. OTOH they may not.

They've got Kerry.

Of course, even I know the course our country is taking won't easily be reversed. In some ways, it's well past too late (in which case, stop blaming nader and blame the thickheads who voted for Reagan after Carter talked about oil conservation in 1980...)

I'm voting Kerry, but I can still say with some assuredness that extinct is forever. And our page in the book of existence is about to be turned over.

[TransitJohn]

13. Well, with this one

I voted Nader the last two times around. I am fence sitting between him and Kerry now. Since my state's three electoral votes will religiously be granted to the GOP, I just don't know how I'm gonna vote. I'll let you know.

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. Welcome to DU *wave*

[qazplm]

16. IMO

if you are Green or third party in a state Bush or Kerry is guaranteed to take, say Hawaii or Texas, then vote Nader, Green or whatever.

But if you are in a battleground state, or a state like VA where it's surprisingly close, you HAVE to vote Kerry.

[TransitJohn]

19. Unfortunately

Wyoming is all GOP, all the time. The damn legislature just called themselves into special session this summer for the first time ever, to address the "crisis" of "out of control" medical torts. There hasn't been a million dollar tort award here in history. It's rotten.

I love my home state. Even though it's a "right to work" state (never with a reach-around). Man, it's beautiful here. We call it God's Country.

I might just write in Kucinich or Dean.

[CharlesGroce]

15. I imagine they'll probably lament the fact that some war candidate...

be it Yalie John Kerry or Yalie George Bush will most certainly win the election this fall, regardless of all the hard work of we supporters of antiwar candidates.

People just aren't ready to say no to the media. It's just that simple. Too many Americans haven't left the TV off for a full dau since they were children, and frankly can't have any intellectual individualism. Being smart in American culture is wearing the right clothes and driving a Volkswagen. And being white, of course.

I won't be voting Nader, but I won't be voting Kerry either. For the sake of Iraqi's, I'll try to find someone who may spare them and their families from corporate imperialism.

What did you think I'd say, that they jump up at support Kerry?

[DaveSZ]

20. I love Wyoming

Beautiful state, but very far-right.

[madrchsod]

22. who gives a shit

what they think? really, what in god`s name do they think,voting for nadar is going to save the usa from bush? are they really that dumb? sorry to be so harsh, but i just can`t figure out how they can justify voting for nadar

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

23. as DU's resident Nader defender

my thoughts throughout it were 'where the hell were the democrats"

then i remembered that most of them, including kerry, voted for half of this shit every step of the way and din't get a spine until election time came around

believe me, i hate bush. but i still thinkthe antiwar movement is being co-opted by a bunch of do-nothing politicians who won't change course from our disasterous direction

that's why i'm supporting ralph. i'm hoping that if there's a significant enough threat, kerry may make a real committment to reversing the mistakes of the so-called 'war on terra"

and as someone who's spoken to ralph at long length a few times, i know that he's a good man and if this occurs, i sincerely believe that he'll back out.

ralph is running to keep the progressive agenda on the table.

so my position remains unchanged

[GreenPartyVoter]

26. I hope you are right, cause I really have admired Ralph

and if we were in different circumstances, say the greens had picked him and we had ranked voting, I would have had no qualms checking his name off on the ballot.