Meet the Press. Mr. Potato face and, so far, a general and a RWinger.

[LittleApple81]

In preparation for the historic transfer of power, an all-star panel with former Clinton administration Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich (R-GA), the Republican Whip of the U.S. Senate, Mitch McConnell (R-KY), and former Clinton Chief of Staff John Podesta will discuss how the Iraq handover will affect U.S. foreign policy, as well as American politics.

And in our "Meet the Press" roundtable, Ron Brownstein of the Los Angeles Times and Gwen Ifill of PBS's "Washington Week" will provide insights and analysis into the presidential race, Iraq and al-Qaida.

________________

General Casey is not mentioned in the group but he is in there.

Showed a clip with Bill Clinton. Allbright said the government is believing it own happy talk and not reality.

[LittleApple81]

1. Allbright: Iraq might be worse than Afghanistan because NOW it

has become a magnet for terrorist (which it was not before).

[Blue_Roses]

2. Madeleine Albrignt

ROCKS!:headbang: I think she is awesome.

[LittleApple81]

3. Question: Mr. Podesta, isn't it a bipartisan mess? The democrats

including Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Kerry approved the war... clip of Kerry saying before the war that he supported the war.

Podesta: Bush administration politicized intelligence, used contractors, disbanded the army (general conducting of the war is wrong, basically).

Americans across the political spectrum want Iraq's war to be successful.

Mr. Potatoface says: Clintons: WMDs, Kerry WMDs... so?

[Cat Atomic]

19. When I hear things like that, I want to tell them

"it's bipartisan only if you consider the modern Democratic Party to actually be on the left".

I see these panels of "experts" on television, and it blows me away. They are *never* representative of the range of political thought in America. Opinion varies from "pro-corporate", to "corporate employee". From right to far right, in other words.

[Warpy]

21. Ask the blow dried dumb bastard where they were getting

the idea! After all, most pols are only as good as the information they are getting. Who was telling them about these fictitious WMDs?
Where were the facts and figures generated?

When the whore press starts asking these questions, I'll probably have a CVA and die of surprise on the spot.

That's the elephant in the parlor, folks, the fact that a cadre of screwball policy wonks and rabid ideologues in the Pentagon has lied the US into another disaster of an unwinnable war. My guess is that they got half their information from Iraqi defectors bearing grudges who were delighted to find fools who would buy their line, and half from the only country to benefit from the destruction of Iraq: Israel.

Before the flames about Israel start, remember that the only clear link between Iraq and "terra" was Hussein's policy of sending aid to Palestinian Arabs who'd had their houses bulldozed by the IDF, something the Israelis resented since they wanted the full effect of kids and old people living in rubble to act as a deterrent (like THAT is ever gonna work).

General Zinni was correct. It's the spectacle of a Christian military occupying a Moslem country for the benefit of a Jewish state. Instead of pointing fingers at politicianc who were lied to, doesn't it make more sense to identify who way lying to them?

[LittleApple81]

4. Mitch McConnell: everybody agreed about Saddam having WMD.

So it was resonable to believe it and proceed to solve the problem.

[dennis4868]

15. How come.....

no one calls the repubs on this statement that all believed that Saddam had WMD....many countries and most of our own intelligence agencies did not think so. Plus, in February before the war the CIA sent the WH a memo saying that could not be sure that Iraq had WMD! Will a goid damn media whore or dem set the record staright on this issue?

[Don_G]

20. McConnell Is My Senator

And will do ANYTHING to support the PNAC agenda.

His wife, the Secretary of Labor, is the same if not worse.

[LittleApple81]

5. Anonymous (CIA writer): Iraq was gift to Osama by radicalizing the ME.

Ginrich: Anonymous's view is much more complicated than that quote.

[LittleApple81]

6. Ginrich: goes back to better off without Saddam. Citing chopped

heads as an argument for Bush to use to warn us that we need to win this war.

[molly]

7. I don't get it until 10:30 EST

is it worth watching or should I go work in the yard?

[Catt03]

9. So far, my review

says it is same old; Gingrich and O'connell spewing RW line, Albright and Podestra trying to cover their rears.

[LittleApple81]

12. Absolutely PERFECT one sentence summary. NOT WORTH WAISTING YOUR TIME! n/t

[LittleApple81]

8. Allbright: not sure we are safer without Saddam. We abandoned

Afghanistan. McConnell says we are better off without Saddam, ABSOLUTELY (intelligent people heading Iraq, wonderful woman came to talk to him, very optimistic, blah, blah, blah, blah).

[cjbuchanan]

11. Didn't Dean say something like this last December?

And people went crazy on him.

Now it seems to have been proved true. Just like pointing that out.

[LittleApple81]

10. Podesta: Bush adopted (I would say stole) Kerry's position.

Ginrich: Bush evolved. 95% of ME is with us, they don't want repressive societies. 5% with knives dominate the rest.
Albright made some closing remarks that I missed.

[KoKo]

13. Well, at least they don't have Henry Kissinger on. Think I'll skip this

one they ae probably saying the same things we've heard them say over and over and it ends up a Right vs. Left discussion with no new insight.

:-(

[LittleApple81]

14. Now discussion of issues for the Presidential campaign with Ifill and

Brownstein.
Anonymous: it was a war of choice rather than necessity.
Kerry has problems because Bush essentially using Kerry's strategy for the war.
Kerry: what he says is not important. People are reacting to what Bush did not what Kerry says.

Ifill: turning point is the handover. Bad news not good. Bush using Kerry's approach is helping Bush.

Ifill has affection for ACCURACY!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA.
Critizicing Michael Moore. He puts things out there so he is acting like Bush: people must make their decision as to what to believe.

Brownstein: Moore not truthful (citing the Saudi flights... oh, boy). Movie is good in reminding people that war is hell.

Ads for movie: political. Ifill: people are smart enough to see what is political or not.
Brownstein: 7% in the middle are the list affected.
Ifill: Europeans loved Moore because he is a pamphleteer and HE BASHES AMERICA. That is it. I am quitting.

[dennis4868]

16. Does Brownstein....

bring supporting evidence that Moore is not truthful other than to simply say that the saudi flights were not true even though it is well documented that it took place?

[Catt03]

17. Ifill stating 9/11 film was "unbalanced"

and that statements about Saudis were not true. I am writing her to ask that she explain that.

What specifically is not true and fill in the blanks with facts please.

Also, why hasn't the press reported Moore's bashing of US in Europe and if they have, please state when, where, how, why and who.

[dennis4868]

18. Exactly....

the media whores are trying to cover their fat asses because they are now discovering they fucked up in covering Bush and have to slam Moore anyway they can....it is interesting that when a media whore says Moore is not truthful they are NEVER SPECIFIC as to what the hell they are talking about!

[Gin]

22. I didn't know Gwen was a rethuglican....I was dissappointed to hear

her comments....another journalist sellout for a dollar.