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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:43 AM
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DEAN on Late Edition (1:20PM ET CNN) NOW
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 12:25 PM by khephra
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:44 AM
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1. Finally, Something That Won't Make Me Puke Today
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:47 AM
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2. It HAS been a wreteched day for liberals on the talk shows, hasn't it?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:33 PM
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27. Holbrooke on This Week was great... but it was 3 against 1.
He said that the Bush approach in Iraq was like jumping in a pool without knowing if there was water in it. And he estimated there was very little water in there.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:35 PM
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33. DELETE. Wrong place. n/t
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 12:36 PM by LittleApple81
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:31 PM
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24. Like an Oasis.
Refreshing to hear some truth spoken.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:52 AM
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3. Still not on yet...
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:54 AM
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4. good, I thought I had missed him
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:55 AM
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5. Oh Hell!
We might have to wait for Frist to spew his bile before we get to hear Dean.

:grr:
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:57 AM
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6. I just can't do it, Captain!
We don't have the power.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:58 AM
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7. Truthfully, I don't either....
Communications, put the volume on mute! Make it so!

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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:00 PM
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9. Consider it done, Captain!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 11:58 AM
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8. Blitzer Dubs Dean "War Critic"
okay
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:05 PM
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10. What is Frist doing in Istambul? He is our favorite mortician.. is
he selling coffins, or health insurance for the Iraqis? Oh, I forgot... we have promised Iraqis good healthcare because we KNOW what it feels like not to have it.
I TURNED HIM OFF. What a relief. Anybody can tell me when Dean shows up?
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:08 PM
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11. I'll post as soon as Dean's on
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:19 PM
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12. Dean's On!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:21 PM
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13. Thanks. I had to turn it off with Frist...He feeds on dead people.n/t
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:21 PM
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14. YES! He spoke up for the women in Iraq who are LOSING their rights
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 12:22 PM by khephra
contrary to what most American journalists think. I swear he just might be the first politician I've heard who accurately stated the difference for women pre/post Saddam.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:22 PM
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15. And he hit on the topic again! Go Dean!
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:24 PM
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16. Now Wolf is taking Dean to task on the topic
And Dean's going through the differences. Hehehehehe...he's really, really grown as an interview subject.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:27 PM
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18. Blitzer acts like it's common knowledge
that Iraqis are better off now and it's sacreligeous to say otherwise! HOW does he think they are better off?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:30 PM
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22. shit I seemed to have missed it all
What was his main topic or purpose? Was he on to dispute he war?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:32 PM
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25. Here's the article about girls that he mentioned-
In today's NYT
snip>
The perils and pressures bearing on the lives of teenage girls here offer a snapshot of the changes bedeviling Iraq. In the past several months, the new access to satellite dishes, Internet cafes and cellphones has given these young women a new window on the outside world. But creeping religious conservatism, lawlessness and economic uncertainty have also been conspiring against them in peculiar ways.

Parents are so rattled by reports of rapes and kidnappings that they keep their girls under closer watch than ever. Girls accustomed to pool outings and piano lessons during the crushingly hot summer vacation months are instead locked up at home. They quarrel with their mothers; they sleep too much; they grow cranky and dejected from mind-numbing boredom.

During the school year, young men claiming to represent new religious groups arrived at some schools, demanding that girls' heads be covered or long-sleeved shirts be required. Not surprisingly, an increasing number of the girls seem to be covering their heads — as much out of fear as out of newfound conviction. Some have stopped going to school altogether, as much because of the threat of violence as because of the economic hardships facing their families. In Yosor's school, for example, 700 girls registered for classes this past year, compared with 850 the previous year.

What long-term effect any of this will have remains to be seen. In a country that was once singular in the Arab world for its ranks of educated, professional women, it is impossible to tell whether the fate of today's teenage girls will be any different from that of their mothers.

http://nytimes.com/2004/06/27/international/middleeast/27GIRL.html



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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:33 PM
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28. It was a bit of everything...war, Kerry, swearing....
I'll be sure to post the transcript here in GD once it's posted at CNN...unless someone beats me to it, of course.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:34 PM
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32. Thanks Keph
I hope your hands feel better.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:35 PM
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34. Thanks! It happens all the time these days so I'm used to it
I'm getting old, damn it! ;-)
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:27 PM
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17. damn it! I canceled my cable 2 weeks ago...I need details!
please please please!

I love Dean.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:28 PM
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19. I'd type more, but I'm having joint troubles today
I'll post the transcript later on today when it goes up on the CNN site.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:30 PM
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23. I think that is the best approach. I am sorry about your joints. Hope you
feel better soon!
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:33 PM
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29. Thanks!
:loveya:
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:34 PM
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31. He said Bush is at the NATO summit because
he needs some good news- says all the 'new' agreements are things that NATO is already doing.

I think that's why he was on- to comment on that- that's how Wolfe started the interview. Dean just ennumerated some of the bad news lately and basically said the trip is for looks.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:28 PM
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20. Right wing is hypocritical
If they don't want 'bad' language on the radio, don't use it on the Senate floor.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:29 PM
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21. I was LMAO when Dean said that!
:evilgrin:

Evil! Evil!
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:32 PM
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26. I love that man!
Ha ha ha!

The people are better off in Iraq without Saddam is the only argument they have left.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:34 PM
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30. as usual...Dean was "right on"....
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:38 PM
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37. This is great! Thank you
dick, for loosin' it.. Howard Stern will pick up on this.}(
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:36 PM
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35.  Damn it!
This man should be our nominee I am so pissed off at the dem party for alowing this man to be demonized.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:36 PM
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36. Remind me again? WHY DIDN'T WE SELECT DEAN as the candidate?
I support Kerry now because I DON'T WANT BUSH. But Dean's fall from even the top candidates during the primary was absolutely astonishing to me. Were the DLC people afraid of his frankness and frontal attack of Bush*'s policies?
HE IS ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. Did not let Leslie get away with anything, not even the POLLS! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:46 PM
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49. Something about "electability"
But that was a long time ago in a place far, far away, or so it seems.

(And I'm fully behind Kerry now)
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:47 PM
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51. It makes me so angry when i think about it
Kerry wins because bush has to go. What a piss poor reason for electing someone. Dean now is out of the race yet still the truth comes from him. What do those that say he was faking it have to say now when he stands nothing personal to gain from what he says yet he still is on message?

This man could have changed the democratic party into something to be proud of once again. I guess he is still working for it in his own way with the local elections he is working to support. But my god the difference he could have made in this country given the chance to do so.

It makes me want to weep.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:38 PM
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38. Kissinger: eeewwww.. he looks like a sick toad...Evil drips from every
pore... And I speak with an accent... but my accent is nice... his is abhorrent. It sounds like he is faking speech.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:40 PM
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41. There are actually several writers who have sworn that Kissinger
occasionally looses his accent during moments of shock or surprise.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:43 PM
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45. I can't look at him without picturing Eugene Levy playing a drunk Henry
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:39 PM
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39. Brezinski (sp): Iraqis HATE the occupation. Repeat: HATE the occupation!
Finally, people speaking out.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:40 PM
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42. Sometime next year we should be leaving Iraq. This will give
Iraq the impetus to control its own destiny (or something like this).
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:43 PM
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44. Brezinski: are we waiting until Syria and Iran stop acting up? We cannot
afford to do this and get bogged down forever.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:40 PM
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40. Dean is getting so much better at dealing with the talking heads!
He was right on top of everything, and didn't let Blitzer get away with any crap! Even called him on his slippery wording when Blitzer tried to twist his statements.

I love the good doctor!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:42 PM
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43. Kissinger: Disagrees with Brezinski: we cannot set a time to leave
Iraq. WHO IS HE TO TALK? DOES HE WANT TO KILL AS MANY BROWN SKINNED PEOPLE AND DESTABILIZE AS MANY COUNTRIES AS HE DID WITH VIETNAM? And I am not even referring to AMERICAN SOLDIERS WHO DIED.
EEEEEEWWWWWW EEEEEEWWWWWWW
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:45 PM
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46. Kissinger is becoming more and more like Jabba the Hut with each
passing day.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:45 PM
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47. WHY DO WE GIVE CREDENCE TO WAR CRIMINALS LIKE KISSINGER!
He was behind the bombing of Cambodia and directly responsible for the killing fields that ensued in that country. Besides American soldiers, Vietnamese innocent people, etc. etc. etc.
WE SHOULD SEND HIM UNARMED TO IRAQ and drop him in the most central location of Baghdad!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:46 PM
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48. WHY DO WE GIVE CREDENCE TO WAR CRIMINALS LIKE KISSINGER!
He was behind the bombing of Cambodia and directly responsible for the killing fields that ensued in that country. Besides American soldiers, Vietnamese innocent people, etc. etc. etc.
WE SHOULD SEND HIM UNARMED TO IRAQ and drop him in the most central location of Baghdad!
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:47 PM
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50. Dean Rocks
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:48 PM
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52. Brezinski took Kissinger to task: the same argument Kissinger made
during the Vietnam war.
He never used the light at the end of the tunnel argument.
EEEEEEWWWWWW cannot even type his words... sorry.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:50 PM
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53. Kissinger is BLAMING the anti-war movement during Vietnam war
as the reason that his approach for that war was never carried out, therefore we could not see if it would succeed.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:52 PM
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54. Showing Gore's statement. Brzezinski says that getting Saddam out
COST too much. The price was too high. We need a broader strategy instead of saying we are going to stay indefinitely.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:54 PM
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55. That poll: who should have custody of Saddam? Either way he is a dead man
walking. The refinement of the public torture would be the only difference in my opinion.
Saddam is a despicable human being... but we did help keep him in power for a long time, so we must shoulder some of the guilt.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 02:45 PM
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56. One thing Dean said was very important:
He was in London recently. He said that many of the business community who usually stood with Republicans were hoping Kerry won this time.

He really ripped into Bush on the BBC, too. Also in the Financial Times.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:41 PM
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57. Good to see Dean get credit in this USA article.
For too long they have ignored how early he spoke out. This is good.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-06-27-dean-war_x.htm

SNIP..."Dean: Most Americans now say U.S. war in Iraq isn't worth fighting
WASHINGTON (AP) — Howard Dean sounded like he had been vindicated on Sunday when he noted that most Americans now agree that the United States should not have invaded Iraq. It was a position that fueled his campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, and earned Dean much criticism in the process."

SNIP.. "After being castigated by both Democrats and Republicans for a while, now the majority of Americans agree with me this was a mistake," the one-time Democratic front-runner said on CNN's Late Edition.."
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