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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:50 PM
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Poll question: Should I mirror the F 9/11 files that I got off lionsgatefilms.com?
Here's the earlier thread for those who missed it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1869214&mesg_id=1869214
Here are the direct links I downloaded it from, but it seems to have disappeared from there now.
http://www.lionsgatefilms.com/f911/Fahrenheit911-CD1.mpg
http://www.lionsgatefilms.com/f911/Fahrenheit911-CD2.mpg

p.s. I have already seen it in the theater and plan on doing so again, and suggest you do the same, especially if you haven't already. Seeing it in the theater is better than watching the mpeg, but with the mpeg you can pause and rewind.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:51 PM
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1. That was most likely a hack...
otherwise I think it would be making news, and the links would have stayed up longer.... plus, its poor quality.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:52 PM
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2. You are mean... I don't have a theater showing it in a 150 miles radius...
so I want it. Then I think about this cutting into the revenues. Could we the people who don't have access to it request it from you through PM so you don't give it to people who can watch it at the theater...
The devil is making me do it, I swear!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:01 PM
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17. The movie will go into wider release around July 4, 2004 (nt)
nt
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:22 PM
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21. President Bogus can watch it on his birthday, July 6th (eom)
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bushvoodoo Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:54 PM
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3. The server was shut down from over use
The error dosen't mean that the link is removed, just can't take the traffic
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:00 PM
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4. I just tried emailing DJMikeyM...
at his michaelmoore.com addy and the email bounced. That box is full to the brim. I wanted to see if these were legit, as I got the files as well.

Mike needs to address this issue somehow.

Anyone know how to contact him?
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:00 PM
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5. It was likely a prank
I've seen it done before. Some hackers got into the RIAA site a while back and allowed them to host the new Linkin Park CD a week before it's release.

Most likely it was some kids pranking around. Freepers are too stupid to hack computers.

I wouldn't host the files yourself if I were you. Very illegal, and you can be held liable for some pretty steep fines.

Anyone who wants the download bad enough can go on eMule, Kazaa or Direct Connect and get it. You can also find verified file sites like Share Reactor as well.
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StandUpGuy Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:09 PM
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6. For Sure 100%
1> MM said he didn't make this movie to make money. and has made back the investment

2> He has said that he doesn't mind if people download it as long as they see it.

3> Who the fuck cares what MM thinks. Downloading and uploading is a perfectly moral thing to do in a capitalist society. Don't listen to any of the argument that try and appeal to your sense of morality claiming that you are a thief because other countries around the world have determined that you are on the right side of the moral debate and thrown related lawsuits out of court.

IMHO the only thing to consider is the risk you face personally of doing this if you live in a country that doesn't allow uploading.

Ill do it if you want however I'm only on cable.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:14 PM
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7. Call Michael's publicist and ask
But odds are since the link didn't stay up, they didn't mean for it to be there.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:14 PM
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8. As much as I would love you to.
You could get into deep trouble.
I wouldnt distribute without written permission.
fines could kill ya.

Besides Let people pay to see it ..it will be out on dvd before nov.Mike said so
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:16 PM
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9. Wonk: I turned in a guy in a Bush Cheney tee shirt who had a camcorder..
at the show.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1866773&mesg_id=1866791

I think this is designed to put a damper on attendance - and that has two important negative consequences:

1.) It makes the film seem less successful that it is.

2.) The act of attending the film, like attending a protest, aides in making people feel less isolated and powerless.

If you must post, at least wait a few weeks.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:17 PM
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10. Hey, Wonk... how's the quality?
I was awake in the wee hours of this morning, trying to download the .mpg's. I only got about 2% of the files when it just stopped crunching.

Curious... :D
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:26 PM
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12. 320x240 29.97 fps, 172kb/s, but the audio is scratchy in some spots.
I don't think it was done with a camcorder in a theater, as some have suggested, or there would be some audience noise in the background. The occasional audio hiss in this copy is likely due to the compression they used for it.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:54 PM
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15. So... when will you announce your decision?
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:58 PM
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22. When I decide, I suppose... nt
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:19 PM
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11. I can't see the film,
because it is not available to me in Mexico. I desperately want to see it, and will gleefully make it available to republican ex-pats.

Please, mirror the site! Thanks
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:27 PM
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13. NO!!!
I doubt it's legitimate about the download. If it was, he would make it more accessible.

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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:43 PM
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14. No - a poor copy is worse than nothing
People who see it will see only a poor imitation, and there is no way it can have the impact of the real thing.

When the DVD is released Moore may want to encourage unrestricted duplication (like "Uncovered"). I hope so. But for now I would let Moore decide on release timing and strategy.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:58 PM
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16. I voted No. The movie will be in WIDER release soon.
They're going to expand it to more theaters around July 4, so the argument that it isn't playing near some people isn't a good reason for mirroring.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:03 PM
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18. Yes, mirror it.
I'm still shocked at the lack of availabilty on the newsgroups, usually movies are out more than a week ahead of time. Put it up.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:08 PM
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19. Please Don't
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 06:10 PM by cryingshame
Or at least wait a few weeks.
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Gordon25 Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:13 PM
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20. Email Michael Moore and ask him
If he ok's it, go for it. If not, let's pay him the respect he has earned by waiting for him to release the video.
Gordon25
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:03 PM
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23. CAREFUL WONK! I smell a TRAP!
We need your A/V skills here. This seems just like the server break in that Bev is being accused of having some involvement with. :)
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 07:28 PM
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24. Go right ahead.
But don't bitch when I report you to Lions Gate and the MPAA. Please don't make me do it.
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