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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 02:17 PM
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Bush a 'very weak' man
Athens - A former US diplomat who resigned over the Iraq war on Sunday described US President George W Bush as a "very weak" man led by the hand into battle by Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

Brady Kiesling, who was political counsellor at the US embassy in Athens at the time of his resignation in February, said in an open letter published by Greek daily To Vima that Rumsfeld exploited the war to increase his own power.

Kiesling - whose warning that US aims in Iraq were "incompatible with American values" struck a chord with the predominantly anti-war Greeks - described Bush as "a politician who badly wants to appear strong but in reality is very weak."

http://www.news24.com/news24/world/iraq/0,,2-10-1460_1403469,00.html


Yes Bush* is weak. But how weak? If we have another attack utilizing WMD...he will be wildly popular. As he puts on his brave face to confront the "terraist". Why does he always say war on "terra".


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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 02:26 PM
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1. We all know what "terra" means in Latin.
I think that might be closer to the truth than most people realize.
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premjan Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 02:29 PM
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2. he is
a weak man. he's running at top speed for fear of what happens if he slows down.
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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 02:33 PM
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3. i saw this story also GBNC
i think its becoming common knowledge among beltway insiders that Junior is a very weak person who isnt in control of anything. Bunker Dick, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz are running everything....Sharon walks over Junior like he isnt there.

I really dont think Junior is making the decisions, the neo-cons are. There are very bad people surrounding a dimwit who has no strength of character.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 02:42 PM
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4. "I'm basically a media creation"
"You know, I could run for governor, but I'm basically a media creation. I've never done anything. I've worked for my dad. I worked in the oil business...." - The Houston Chronicle, 1989
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 03:39 PM
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6. WOW
Is that for real? Did he really say that? Did he really admit he's a dumb ass?
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 06:38 PM
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8. might be the only honest thing * has ever said!
that's great. Any links to the rest of the interview?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 02:51 PM
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5. I am from Texas and never use those terms.
"Terra and Terraist"
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 04:00 PM
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7. In all fairness to Jr, I don't think they had to twist his arms on war
Let's face it, W loves killing! And fundraising! And energy deregulation. Three topics where I saw him awake during his misadministration.
The tone of the piece seems to absolve W of responsibility - nice kid, but the peer pressure....
He is weak to be sure. But he is also a mean homicidal maniac who said in 2002: "F*k Saddam, I'm taking him down" in private and "I am a man of peace" in public.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 06:42 PM
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9. I heard a Kiesling interview on NPR a few months ago.
Very interesting man, very erudite, well spoken. He could have gone far in the diplomatic corps. Too bad he felt he had to leave.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 06:45 PM
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10. He is one terrorist attack away from a 45% approval rating
"Yes Bush* is weak. But how weak? If we have another attack utilizing WMD...he will be wildly popular. As he puts on his brave face to confront the "terraist". Why does he always say war on "terra"."

That is not true. If another attack takes place, there will be no Bill Clinton to blame and questions will be asked about what he did to prevent the attack. Nor do I see most of the Democrats repeating their post 9/11 group hug (save for Joe Lieberman, who will probably suspend his campaign for the sake of "unity", which is fine with me). I think it will be the same for a Democratic president: he'll get one "get out of jail free card" for the first attack, but a second attack will bring major scrutiny and criticism.

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bearded_cat Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 06:49 PM
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11. Bush hasn't been scrutinized or criticized in his entire life
I don't see that changing, no matter what. Reagan used to be the teflon president. Nothing stuck. Bush is the same, though ten times worse in his policies. The media never calls him on anything. Any other president would have been gone long ago.

Tinfoil time: The repubs made such a big deal out of impeaching Clinton so that the people would be sick of the process by the time their boy became king.
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