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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 12:53 PM
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Somebody please tell me why I shouldn't move to Canada.
Edited on Mon Aug-18-03 12:57 PM by gully
*sigh*

I feel Canada has so much of what we are fighting for her in the US?!

:shrug:

Please tell me I'm wrong because there is much to consider.

Surely the US has something to offer that Canada doesn't.

Canadians, thoughts?
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SeiowMao Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 12:55 PM
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1. My husband and I've discussed this for the last 1 1/2 years....
However, we live in Tucson, AZ and love the Sonoran desert and SUN.... Maybe if global warming gets bad enough it will be nice and sunny in Canada? Just can't leave the sun. Mexico?
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:05 PM
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12. I've been sweltering through
100°F weather for a couple of weeks now in Canada.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/

C'mon up. The weathers fine eh.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 12:56 PM
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2. Stay here and watch the fun, my friend.
Clark is going to declare any day now. He's gonna whup the pants off of Crusader Bunnypants and the Mysterons next year.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 12:56 PM
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3. I think you should
If it's really what you want to do. You won't get any argument from me.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 12:58 PM
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4. BECAUSE
you are letting the likes of BUSH INC run you out of your own country. FOR SHAME!
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 12:58 PM
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5. You may have to wait a year before you can earn wages.
Edited on Mon Aug-18-03 01:02 PM by maveric
Its one of their immigration laws. My ex ran off to Canada to marry some guy she met on the internet and she could not work/earn wages until her 1 year period was up.
You might want to check into that.
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:08 PM
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15. That must have felt sweet for you huh maveric.
lol
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:09 PM
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28. In a bittersweet way.
I received $00.00 for child support during that year. I was left with raising our 3 sons alone.
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mjb4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:00 PM
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6. we are not thinking broadly enough
I told my family to think of New Zealand....I just feel it has to be thought of more seriously and beyond Canada, Mexico and Great Britian.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:03 PM
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8. We're moving to New Zealand if Chimp gets in in '04...
Canada's too close to the US, and if he's in again, we'll fall faster than Jenna Jamieson's underpants.

and, in the words of Homer Simpson:

"Why would I want to leave America for America Junior?"
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:01 PM
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7. Under no circumstances are you allowed to leave
we need you to stay here and fight with us! :hi:
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:03 PM
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9. Because
We need you here for the fight. Please stick around a little while longer; give it everything you've got for the next fifteen months and then decide.
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sexybomber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:03 PM
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10. why run?
Running from the problem is, IMHO, a tad cowardly. STAY AND FIGHT THE POWER! *raises fist*

Besides, it would be much more satisfying to see the downfall of the Bush administration if you've stuck it out here. The party after he leaves will be bigger in the US than in Canada.
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caribmon Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:04 PM
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11. The Gulf Islands
and Vancouver Island in the south have almost Mediteranean climates. Google islands like Saltspring, Saturn, Mayne and Pender as well as southern Vancouver Island and you will see. It is gorgeous. People are progressive, warm... huge rainforest, clean seas, fishing, crabbing, fresh air. Not too many people. It's the best place to live in Canada.

My family has land on Saturna... I have watched the whales play since I was a kid. There isn't even a cop on the rock. Kid's go by boat to school on another isle. Peace is there.

Canada is a good place to live. It really is. And I say that, even though I live in Europe at the present. Home is home and British Columbia has it all.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:07 PM
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14. Yup, Vancouver Island here!
Can't beat it! Oh, we did have one day of snow last winter, but it was all melted by nightfall.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:06 PM
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13. Because their soccer team is a joke.
and the US team is getting better. Now granted this would only apply to you if you are a rabid soccer fan.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:26 PM
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19. Because they actually consider curling to be a sport.
If the idea of turning on the tube and watching shuffleboard on ice doesn't bother you, then go for it, eh?

:-)
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:10 PM
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16. It's too %&@)$( %^%$)_ )(*@)_%^$!( cold.
But you go ahead. More room in mexico for me.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:28 PM
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21. 100°F today actually
where I live in Canada :D
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SaintLouisBlues Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:13 PM
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17. Move to a Red State instead
Unless of course you're already there. And contrary to vast generalizations, there are plenty of like-minded people in the dreaded Red. We were 49 percent Blue last go around, and were a Blue State for last two elections that were decided by the voters.

Stay and fight!
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:52 PM
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33. Yeah...just be careful where you choose to move in Missouri
I would not suggest the Ozarks, unless you are a glutton for punishment. But KC and St. Louis areas would be more to your liking. Just left the Ozarks, and the only thing I miss is the rabid conservatism.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:13 PM
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18. I will never leave this country to move somewhere else
Actually I don't care if you do move, they are a better place to live in for now. But, I was born here and I feel like if there is something in this country that I don't like. I should fight it, like voting for someone else in 2004 even though I won't be old enough by 22 days. Also, prevent the repubs to control congress any chance they get. But if things get so bad that is beyond "living through it", then I will reconsider leaving this country, possibly the Netherlands.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:26 PM
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20. Because it's the biggest "Blue State"...
...as far as the PNAC Gallery is concerned, so if the line is not drawn here, if we don't stop them now, they're going to squeeze and assimilate Canada in due time. Fleeing merely postpones the inevitable; fighting can prevent it.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:30 PM
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22. Sorry, I can't help you out on that one...
My husband and I are talking about where we will move should * steal another election.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:30 PM
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23. Because your nation and your species needs you to stay & fight
Run away, and you help condemn the rest of us to Imperial Orwellian Totalitariansm.

Please stay and help us. Help yourself. Because you are living in a fool's paradise if a Orwellian-Totalitarian Empire like Bushevik Amerika will tolerate a Free Paliamentary Democracy living right next door.
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 01:32 PM
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24. Why not?
Because you MUST fight for the US. Self-preservation means nothing; you are simply a pawn for the Greater Goal of the elimination of Georgie Dubya Shrub.

More seriously, you're not wrong at all; I'm investigating Canadian universities to go to next academic year (2004-5), as a matter of fact.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:09 PM
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27. That's a funny answer
Sounds like you really don't care whether or not the American Experiment fails spectacularly or not.

As the last time Totalitarians Destroyed a Great Republic and Threatened the World, there is NOWHERE TO HIDE.

But I'm guessing you know that.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:33 PM
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32. perhaps...
something such as what you describe might be necessary to kick start the thinking process in this country. Out of misery springs maturity, tolerance and wisdom.:hippie:
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magnolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:02 PM
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25. I'll second...
...or third: WE NEED YOU HERE! In fact, move to Virginia (where I live) they really, really need us here.

About Canada: I love it. In fact my husband and I recently bought a summer cottage in Nova Scotia. A fixer-upper for $25,000.00 USD. It's great there...incredible recycling system. They plan on zero waste by 2005. The weather in NS is heavenly...warm/cool in the summer, yet the lower part only gets to about freezing during the winter. Many pluses but minuses too....there is a waiting list to actually move and many requirements. The sales tax is 15%...ouch! Wages are low and everything is expensive. Most of them live very modestly. The average blue collar worker makes about $8.00 per hour and a four stick pack of butter costs $4.00. The extravagent houses belong to wealthy Americans.

Candians: If I'm off on any of this stuff, then please correct me. But this is my experience in NS.
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tameszu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:15 PM
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29. I'm from Toronto, but the *world* needs liberals to stay in the U.S.!
Canada is a wonderful place to live.

And, hmm, I don't know about rural Nova Scotia, which would certainly be a "have not" part of Canada, but I find that the cost of living is much cheaper in Canada than in the U.S. I currently live in a small city in Connecticut (which only has small cities--it's all icky cities and blah suburbs) and the cost of living is around the same as Toronto, which is a world-class city. Montreal is another fantastic city, comparable to Boston or New Orleans, except with 2 languages, but living there is dirt cheap--literally half the cost! If you're worried about work, than Toronto is definitely a great bet--the employment scene there has been booming for years--the Canadian economy has been doing much better than the American economy since...well, since Bush took over...go figure...

But you should stay, because the U.S. is massively powerful and the PNAC people are putting us all in danger. The rest of the world really, really needs the U.S. to be run by people with at least half a conscience (like Clinton) and not a bunch of crazy a*sholes. That's also why someone involved in politics in the U.S. can make much more of a difference--it's where the action is...
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:30 PM
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30. hmmmm...shuffle board or Viking football.
Right now my biggest apprehension is the 'shuffleboard matches' on the tele. ;)

But, considering the alternative is Viking football this season, that's not soundin' too bad.

My main consideration is my daughter and the legacy I leave her. I feel like Canada shares my values, but understand the need to stay and fight too.

It's perplexing, but perhaps if we oust Bush in 04 I'll stick around.

Thanks gang, keep suggestions coming!

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tameszu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 04:31 PM
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35. P.S.: Curling rocks, man!
If you can watch baseball or golf on TV--which I enjoy, just not without something else to do at the same time--then you can definitely watch curling.

This is going to sound kinda goofy, I know, but curling is not freakin' shuffleboard! And olympic medal curling, when you have a country to cheer for (that is, a country that's actually good at it ;)) is totally exciting!

Uh, that is all. Hope this helps you make up your mind!
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magnolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:31 PM
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31. Tameszu
Edited on Mon Aug-18-03 02:31 PM by magnolia
I agree with you...Canada's a great place to live for many reasons. I grew up north of Detroit, so went to Windsor and Toronto often. I've been to Montreal, Quebec City, New Brunswick, PEI...I love it all. But...EVERYTHING in the Annapolis County area of NS is way more expensive than in Virginia. I imagine the cost of living in Connecticut is way higher than Virginia.
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ermoore Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 02:05 PM
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26. Too many French-Canadians . . .
Duh-duhn-duhn-chin! Thanks alot you've all been great. Have a good evening!
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-03 04:04 PM
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34. Hey, it just occured to me, I'm part French Canadian...
Thank Ya very much!
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