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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:04 PM
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Michael Moore misedited "Now Watch this Drive"
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 07:21 PM by gulliver
(I thought I would bring this up again, because I think it is a serious blunder by Moore.)

Moore only shows the last sentence of what Bush said. Then he shows Bush hitting the golf drive. Unfortunately, unless you are one of the few people who remember the context of this execrable Bush performance, you probably won't get how bad it really was.

Bush was making his comment on August 4, 2002 (edited from "2001," thanks to Melinda) immediately after a suicide bombing in Israel in which 9 people died and 50 were wounded. Moore should have made the audience deeply aware of this fact. Then, what now looks like a guy giving a perfunctory sound bite and getting back to his vacation would sound more like this:

(9 people were murdered today in Israel and 50 were wounded)... "I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers... Now watch this drive."

As it is now in Fahrenheit 9/11, only people who already think Bush is an a**hole will see Moore's point. The others will think that Moore is criticizing Bush for golfing and not taking his job seriously. What Bush didn't take seriously was actually a major tragedy.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:06 PM
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1. But-but-but - he is a compassionate conservative
and he follows Jeezus.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:08 PM
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2. Actually I though he made the comment after 911, which made it seem
even worse?

None the less it's insensitive, arrogant, callous and unpresidential to say the least.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:08 PM
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3. Moore theoretically could have shown more of lots of things, but
Moore theoretically could have shown more of lots of things, but he wanted to make a fast-paced movie.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:10 PM
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4. True, I'm hoping the extra information is in the DVD. n/t
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:13 PM
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9. I doubt there is room even on a DVD for all *s outrages, but I hope Moore
includes as many as will fit.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:10 PM
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5. Frankly, I cant conceive of any 'context' that would

mitigate the thoughtlessness made apparent by how perfunctorily he switched from a serious and tragic subject to the self-indulgent triviality of his own amusement.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:13 PM
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10. I can conceive of it.
I've talked to people who are happy to apologize for Bush based on the footage as shown. It's maddening that people don't see it the way you and I do, but they don't. Moore probably assumed that what he had was enough because Moore gets it without the extra context too. Other people don't. Especially, for example, Republicans and golfers.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:11 PM
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6. I hadn't heard the original clip and I could see
that bush was talking about terrorists in his stupid fashion and then getting down to business with his drive.

I think Moore did fine on this one.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:11 PM
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7. I call Bullshit - Bush* spat that out well after 911
I remember seeing it on CNN when he pulled his "faux pas", and we had a long thread on DU about it. Care to provide your source?
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:14 PM
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11. Link
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:17 PM
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13. Like I said - well after 911 - look at the date again.
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 07:19 PM by Melinda
And from the article:

"His business out of the way, Bush barely paused for breath before saying, "Thank you. Now watch this drive."
"
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:20 PM
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14. Whoops. You're right!
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 07:22 PM by gulliver
Correcting in the main post with thanks.

... Which makes it even worse...

Thanks, again!
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:12 PM
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8. He said it, everything in the movie is true.
The media does stuff like that all day on TV. He was just showing what happened.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:14 PM
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12. Let's see if repukes point out this omission. nt
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:28 PM
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15. But I remember seeing it on the news when he did it.
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 07:29 PM by Beaverhausen
it was in the lead up to the war. It was around the time he said "I'm the one who decides when we go to war, when we go after terrorists, nukular nukular blah blah blah." It was in the lead up to the IWR vote.

I don't remember it being after a suicide bombing.

but your mileage may vary.

edited cuz I kan't speel
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:31 PM
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16. The suicide bombing happened only four hours earlier.
Just over four hours before, as Bush slept at his parents' seaside retreat, a Palestinian suicide bomber blew up a bus in Israel, killing nine passengers.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A43789-2002Aug4?language=printer
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:35 PM
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17. Ok well then I sit corrected.
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