Anyone watching? Senate Intelligence Committee on WMD...

[southlandshari]

I'm on CNN. Rockefeller is on now - at first glance, looks like a pretty strong indictment of * administration's overstating of intelligence analysis...

[buff2]

1. Not really...

the repuke majority will keep on protecting the little bu$h kid and his gang of thugs. :argh:

[southlandshari]

2. is there another

discussion thread on this? Surely I'm not the only one watching...

[Selwynn]

3. It is not a strong indictment in the slightest.

Because the content of the report does not include what rockefeller is pointing out. It blames everything on the CIA and specifically says that there was no political pressure brought to bear by the administration on the intelligence.

What a joke.

[lovedems]

4. Then Roberts got his wish.

I remember before this investigation started he kept repeating, "We need to look at the CIA." From the beginning he wasn't going to look at the Bush administration. Looks like he accomplished what he set out to do, Blame "Anyone But Bush". I guess that statement can be universal.

[southlandshari]

5. Sigh...

you are right. I guess I actually got up on the still-clinging-to-some-hope-there-are-those-in-government-willing-to-do-the-right-thing side of the bed this morning!

No more CNN for me for a while!

[HysteryDiagnosis]

8. News vs Facts

>>Because the content of the report does not include what rockefeller is pointing out. It blames everything on the CIA and specifically says that there was no political pressure brought to bear by the administration on the intelligence.<<

Seems the facts disagree with the news once again.

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030512fa_fact
SELECTIVE INTELLIGENCE
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
Donald Rumsfeld has his own special sources. Are they reliable?
They call themselves, self-mockingly, the Cabal—a small cluster of policy advisers and analysts now based in the Pentagon’s Office of Special Plans. In the past year, according to former and present Bush Administration officials, their operation, which was conceived by Paul Wolfowitz, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, has brought about a crucial change of direction in the American intelligence community.

http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/iraq/1448.html
The Lie Factory

Mother Jones
January 26, 2004
BY ROBERT DREYFUSS & JASON VEST
Mother Jones, January/February 2004
Only weeks after 9/11, the Bush administration set up a secret Pentagon unit to create the case for invading Iraq. Here is the inside story for how they pushed disinformation and bogus intelligence and led the nation to war.

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/leopold11.html
CIA Probe Finds Secret Pentagon Group Manipulated Intelligence on Iraqi Threat
A half-dozen former CIA agents investigating prewar intelligence have found that a secret Pentagon committee, set up by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in October 2001, manipulated reams of intelligence information prepared by the spy agency on the so-called Iraqi threat and then delivered it to top White House officials who used it to win support for a war in Iraq.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html
Special investigation
The spies who pushed for war

Julian Borger reports on the shadow rightwing intelligence network set up in Washington to second-guess the CIA and deliver a justification for toppling Saddam Hussein by force

[Selwynn]

14. Well life is not based on reality, but the perception of reality.

I was not arguing that it was right to blame the CIA, I was only saying that this is exactly what is happening, with the chairman explicitly saying that no political pressure was involved, and it was all the CIAs fault.

[riverwalker]

6. yes watching

couldn't find any thread. Rockefeller very effective, would like to see a transcript "we would NOT have voted for the IRW" now they are discussing that they disagreed on the definition of "pressure" from admin.

[Mountainman]

7. Roberts said it was the fault of the CIA that we went to war.

It is a white wash of Bush. He says that the CIA gave Bush bad intelligence and Bush acted on that bad intelligence and that there was no political pressure to come up with those results.

Rockefeller says there is disagreement on whether there was pressure to come up with the conclusions that the CIA gave the administration. Also, part of the report dealing with the administration will not be made public until after the election.

It is just a complete whitewash and worthless IMHO.

[LittleApple81]

9. He is an asshole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[LittleApple81]

11. If you want, there is a link on the C-Span page for C-Span Org

(Not CSPAN1, CSPAN2, CSPAN3 but CSpan.Org. Lower half part of the page.

http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=

[Wind Dancer]

10. It is a whitewash!

So typical that parts of the report will NOT be available until after the election. I am so sick and tired of this ongoing secrecy, this administration makes Nixon and his ilk look like saints.

[Ready4Change]

12. Clear difference between Roberts and Rockfeller.

Roberts says intelligence community failure. Rockfeller says flawed reports due to undue administration pressure.

[VolcanoJen]

13. So, should we expect the same of the 9/11 Commission?

When the report comes out at the end of the month, will we be informed that all criticism of the administration's handling of pre-9/11 intelligence will be handled in a "Phase 2" post-election report?

This Senate CIA report is completely impotent. Honestly, sometimes I just can't believe this world we're living in.

:grr: :mad: :grr: :mad:

[Flubadubya]

15. Media response not surprising...

Directly following the conference the analyst on CNN (sorry, didn't get his name but is a black gentleman who is balding) kept saying over, and over, and over, and over (actually four times as I counted) that the Democrats did NOT - I repeat did NOT oppose the release of the report.

He went on to say that the Dems disagreed with some of it (as Rockefellor purported), but the Dems did NOT oppose the release of the report. Let me reiterate... did NOT oppose the release of the report.

I don't suppose I have to tell you what impression I think this gives to the American public.

MEDIA WHORES GO GET A CLUE!!!! :grr: :mad: :grr: :mad: