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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:26 PM
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1000 Vets had warned Bush: "Gulf war will be worse than Vietnam"
Edited on Tue Aug-19-03 04:32 PM by protect freedom impe
http://www.sundayherald.com/32159

16 March 2003

Veterans tell Bush: 'Gulf war will be worse than Vietnam'

1000 US servicemen and women warn military action will wipe out cities and breed terrorism

By Neil Mackay, Home Affairs Editor



MORE than 1000 US servicemen and women have told President George Bush that they oppose war against Iraq and warned him that any conflict with Saddam Hussein will become another Vietnam.
The American soldiers, sailors and aircrew have written a letter to the President, signed by two vice-admirals, a brigadier-general, 14 colonels and hundreds of other high-ranking officers, asking Bush to meet with the leaders of the anti-war 'Veterans for Common Sense' group.

The letter, signed by men and women who fought in the second world war, Korea, Vietnam and the first Gulf war, represents the biggest backlash yet delivered to the Bush administration from the US military. The letter says: 'We are patriotic citizens and veterans ... we feel duty-bound to share with you our serious concerns regarding issues of national security the appropriate use of military strength.'

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The veterans fear that war in Iraq 'would likely involve protracted siege warfare, chaotic street-to-street fighting in Baghdad and Iraqi civil conflict. If that occurs, we fear our own nation and Iraq would both suffer casualties not witnessed since Vietnam. We fear the resulting carnage and humanitarian consequences would further devastate Iraqi society and inflame an already volatile Middle East and increase terrorism against US citizens'.

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Full text of the letter signed by 1,000 war veterans questioning President Bush's rush to start a war against Iraq

go to -
http://www.sundayherald.com/32186


here's just a few of the 1000.....

Sincerely,


Vice Admiral Ralph Weymouth, USN, Retired


Vice Admiral Jack Shanahan, USN, Retired




Brigadier General Evelyn P. Foote, USA, Retired




Colonel David H. Hackworth, USA, Retired


Colonel Larry Williams, USMC, Retired


Colonel James E Unterseher, USA, Retired


Colonel James B. Burkholder, USA, Retired


Colonel Roger F. Strand, USAF, Retired


Colonel Virginia A. Metcalf, USA, Retired


Colonel Mary H. Yeakel, USA, Retired


Colonel Henrik O. Lunde, USA, Retired


Colonel Bruce S. Jarstfer, USA, Retired


Colonel Thomas Patrick Chisholm, USA, Retired


Colonel James Steven Chandler, USA


Colonel James J. Kent, USA, Retired


Colonel Grace E. Squires, USA, Retired


Colonel Carol Anne O'Donnell, USA, Retired



...and the nearly 1000 more........
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:28 PM
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1. Just another "focus group" according to Junior n/t
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:38 PM
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3. Everyone is just a focus group
Those 3000 who died on 9/11?
Meerely a focus group who showed unanamously that diplomacy driven only by fear works very well.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:41 PM
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4. There it is. n/t
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:31 PM
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2. So much for Cliff May
On Crossfire a little while ago, May asserted that nobody could have foreseen the situation in Iraq. When Garafolo contridicted him, Tucker said "let's get beyond this childish "I told you so".

Mr President, at least 1000 veterans and I don't know how many good loyal patriotic citizens "told you so".

So now...get your sorry self busy and try to get the International Community to bail your equally sorry butt out of this mess.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 06:18 PM
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9. No!
So now...get your sorry self busy and try to get the International Community to bail your equally sorry butt out of this mess.

No! Bu$h deserves to be disgraced, cashiered, and convicted. Impeach him. Let his non-BFEE replacement start the uphill task of bringing the US back into the world of the sane.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 04:52 PM
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5. my god, did Nostrodamus write this? Prophetic
unfortunately, our policies are written by Nostro-dumbass
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:01 PM
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6. 'Cry havoc and unleash the dogs of war!' - William Shakespeare
Byrd warned: "We must not allow any president to unleash the dogs of war at his own discretion and for an unlimited period of time." And he lamented: "Yet that is what we are being asked to do. The judgment of history will not be kind to us if we take this step." Yet the voices of the people of the United States were drowned in the patriotic piousness that killed any meaningful debate on the issue.

One American icon, actress-filmmaker and Democratic Party activist Barbra Streisand gave the whole charade an ironic perspective by quoting William Shakespeare from his drama Julius Caesar.

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervour, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword.

"It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind... And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded with patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader, and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done.

"And I am Caesar."

http://www.dawn.com/2002/10/24/fea.htm
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MrBadExample Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:52 PM
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8. Shakespeare geek moment.
Actually, it's let slip the dogs of war, and not only is the "drums of war" thing not from the play, it was almost certainly never spoken by Caesar himself. You can check out the details here.

:)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-03 05:02 PM
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7. Thanks for the post......this is good news......a start.......
Bush/Cheney don't listen to anything.....but your post shows that at some point they will be shouted down and this group deserves credit for putting themselves on the line like this.
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