California has Republicans on horns of a dilemma....

[kentuck]

Gray Davis and the Democrats have an easy row to hoe compared to Arnold and the Repubs. There is a movement on conservative talk radio in the last 2 or 3 days that is exposing Arnold as anything but a "conservative". This is starting to tear apart the Republican Party in California and could affect the Party nationwide.

The talking heads insist that they cannot vote for Arnold because he is not "anti-abortion" and besides that, they are not so sure he will not raise their taxes. These are two corners of the Republican Party base. They are starting to speak out. Perhaps they think that at the last minute, they will be able to unite the Party behind Arnold. It's not gonna happen folks and the Repubs know it. If they are going to be united, it will have to be behind one of the conservatives. Arnold will bust open the Repubs like a watermelon on a hot summer day.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

1. I don't think of the Repubs as a watermelon on a hot summer day

but rather, a hot steamy pile of .....

[silverweb]

2. Hehehe...

I love it!

Look out Rethugs - Karma can be a real bitch!

:evilgrin:

[Cha]

3. Sounds like all their idealogies will get really liven things up in

California!

[MoonAndSun]

4. You are so right, kentuck....

this recall is going to bite them in the butt, BIG TIME!! Their stupidity and arrogance knows no bounds.

[KC21304]

5. Oh, but next week Bill Simon gets offered a job he cannot refuse.

Ambassador to --------- fill in the blanks. Or Undersecretary of
---------- fill in the blanks. And poof, problem solved. And you right, right wing nuts shut up and take one for the party.

[kentuck]

7. But they need to make Arnold the Ambassador ??

Otherwise, Repubs are going be leaving the reservation..

[KC21304]

10. I don't think so. Arnold is the only Republican who has a chance

to win. And then only if Simon or McClintok ? get out. Arnold would never agree to get out at this point. And I'm not sure Simon would but I'll bet he is being pressured mightly.

[dansolo]

34. The conservative voters will just stay home

They will stay home before they vote for Arnold.

[poskonig]

9. McClintock is much more of a threat than Simon.

If Simon dropped out and gave all of his supporters to McClintock, I'd definitely be concerned.

[KC21304]

11. But is Simon and McClintock support together

equal to Arnold's ? What a mess.

[Capn Sunshine]

6. THis happens every time

It's the only enjoyable thing about politics in CA
the right wing of the reps shoots the party in the foot every time
they always do the worst damage to themsleves, and then after proving they are in control of the party, they shred any liberal repubs (they still exist , you know!) andthen stand around after the election going
"whaaaaaa?"
:nuke:

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

8. So now...

The cretins begin to learn the meaning of the word "Tarbaby".

More learning is definately in order.

Once again, remember: After Hubris, Nemesis.

[Iluvleiberman]

12. Arnold is a RINO

Really he should be on our side and in our party. Any idea to why he is a Rethug?

[Clete]

14. Probably doesn't believe in entitlement programs

like Social Security and Medicare. He really is a Libertarian IMHO, but he knows he wouldn't go far in politics with a third party, so instead he is a moderate Republican.

[Iluvleiberman]

19. Makes sense

[Beetwasher]

13. That's a good point and it's not their only problem

In their over-reaching, they've created an out of control monster. The Dems now have a HUGE megaphone and Grey Davis is using it and Clinton is advising him. Davis is not pulling punches and drawing a very interesting picture for the american people and tying many loose ends together. His speech tonight was terrific and you could smell, taste and touch the Clintonian influence! The Repubs may have a real problem of their own creation. They created a media sensation in the recall and it could work against them...Just imagine if they lose...

[gulliver]

15. Socking it to Bush already.

Davis is making this about national Bushism. Davis smacked pubbies today for trying to steal elections they can't win. He also pointed out that while he was trying to fix California's Enron-caused energy problems, Dick Cheney was having secret meetings with Enron.

Huffington has also pledged to make this about neocons.

And I don't think Schwarzenegger is going to be too effective a Bush defender in a debate scenario.

[Beetwasher]

16. Yup, it's out of control now and it's becoming a NATIONAL issue

as it should be about out of control radicals...They're changing the subject and rightfully so....I can smell the Big Dawg all over this...

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

17. I think the "Arnold is too liberal" schtick is a ploy.

A ploy to drag some non-critical thinking Dems over to the dark side.

[ferg]

18. nope, CA Repubs really are psycho

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

26. I know. I was born in S. Central LA.

[SuffragetteSal]

24. exactly

I have been saying for some time now 'critical thinking' should be a course taught to 'the children'...they will need it. Hell, we need it. What a mess this nation has become because of people too lazy to think for themselves.

[Ladyhawk]

29. Hear, hear!

In my right-wing fundy school, I was taught that thinking was against god's principles. Really! Humanism and its reliance on reason was villified.

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding."

My classmates and I were set up to do whatever a "Christian" leader tells us to do. Too bad I defected, huh?

Kids in public school aren't taught to think, either. They are fed "facts" and asked to regurgitate them on command.

[Robin Hood]

20. OK, Let's get this straight.

The only reason that all of hate radio and whoreporate TV is calling Ahnold too conservative is that they want to pass him off as palatable to a liburul California. Much like that compassionate conservative crap.

Don't believe this crap. His father was a nazi bastard, he is a nazi bastard, and his policies will come straight from the head nazi bastard himself, George Bush.

[SuffragetteSal]

22. oh my whoreporate America

and Ahnold - I wouldn't be surprised if he already bought the media and shoved them in his front pocket.

This is all a tactic to get attention away from the real culprit - the failure of the Bush administration.

I hate the frickin media...all I have heard is how Arnold's and his TV add coming out tomorrow. So much for 'fair and balanced'?

Where is OUR news representation?????

[Robin Hood]

25. Whoreporate media played Ahnolds full commercial

but only a snippet of Gray Davis's speech, And he gave a 20 minute speech. But I guess what Davis had to say didn't go over very well with the corporate pimps and their little media whores.

[Code_Name_D]

31. Then do your part.

Post the transcript on the DU, or a link to the speach. It will get out. Especualy if Davis is truly speaking with fire. I haven't heard this (or seen it my self, not that I am paying attention.) But rumer defantly says he is starting to fight.

If he is indead calling attentions to atempts to rig the vote, than this meets one (of seven) of my conditions to be to be called a figting dem.

However, he can only do it, with your help.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

23. Agreed. See #17.

A transparent ploy.

[Gloria]

21. I'm SOOO glad Davis is making this about Bush.....when this all

started, my first reaction was to use the platform of this recall fiasco to hammer Bush!
Even if Davis goes down, for a couple of months, there will be someone talking against Bush!!~

[Bushknew]

27. Let not your panties get ruffled

Arnold, Simon and McClintok

Will get muffled

By Cruz Bustamante and by no other.

[kentuck]

28. I think they have created a monster they can't control......

Right wingers will not vote for a pro-choice candidate. And they definitely cannot be persuaded to vote for someone that will raise their taxes. They will eventually come to the realization that their only hope is with one of their conservative candidates but their dilemma is what do they do with Arnold. He is the "monster" they have created.

[dweller]

30. simple solution to the monster?

vote NO on the recall.
Then go to the polls in a valid election cycle.

guess they haven't thought of that?

dp

[realFedUp]

32. I'm surprised women's groups aren't speaking up against Ahnold

I really don't understand the silence on his treatment of
women...and really am astounded that Republicans are
supporting this guy.

[chaska]

33. ...bust open the repubs like a dead cow on hot summers day.