The Dean/Nader comparisons need to end

[ButterflyBlood]

anyone with an iota of intelligence can see the difference, but here it is: Dean is running for the nomination where he actually can win the general election, not as a third party that can only split the vote. Some people have said Dean could split the vote, which I'm very interested in hearing how this can be done when he's only running in the primary. As for him running as an independent if he loses the nomination, there's not a shred of evidence that he would do so, but plenty that he wouldn't. Furthermore what's the point of a centrist candidate running against a centrist Democrat and a Republican to the right of Mussolini? I suppose he could alter his campaign and run as an ultra-leftist third party, but Bush could also change his actions to being ultra-leftist and become a Green. There's absolutely no reason to suggest why it would occur.

Can someone please explain to me anything that Dean and Nader have in common?

[Colin Ex]

1. They're both human beings.

That's all I got.

[ibegurpard]

2. They both eat babies?

:shrug:

[jfkennedy]

3. Republican strategy in 2000 was to buy votes

Most here are probably not aware of the swing voter. The media did not talk of it much but it was central in the minds of Republican campaign strategy planners. Here are a couple of articles to explain it.Bush is simply buying votes for the 2004 election in swing states just like in 2000.The election was so fixed by the Republicans that liberal Greens whom left the Nader camp known as Nader Raiders started vote trading,to stop the vote buying. And the Republicans filed lawsuits to try and stop it but failed. The Republicans actually spent more on Naders campaign ads then Nader did himself.

Also most of the Nader Raiders were key campaign planners for Nader. They even wrote most of the ads that the Republicans were buying from Nader to steal the liberal vote. So they defected to the Green Democratic Party, because they never intended to work on the Bush campaign.



http://www.bushwatch.com/october2000.htm

BUSH BACKERS BUY ADS FOR NADER IN SWING STATES

Ralph Nader's goal to get George W. Bush elected got a push from a pro-Bush committee yesterday, the Republican Leadership Council. According to a 10/27/00 AP story, the RLC has made an ad consisting of footage of Nader attacking Gore and is buying $10,000 worth of ad time to be used to keep the Bush lead in Oregon and to move Bush ahead in Washington and Wisconsin, two states that are up for grabs.

The AP also noted that the RLC ad buy for Nader comes at a very good time for the Green Party candidate, since he doesn't have the money to afford the cost of the ad campaign the Republicans are launching for him: "Nader, running a low-budget campaign, is not currently airing any television commercials of his own and it's possible that the RLC will end up spending more on pro-Nader media than Nader himself."


http://news.com.com/2100-1023-247957.html?legacy=cnet

With just six days before the presidential election, regulators may have a hard time shuttering online vote swapping, a practice that has taken hold recently in light of the tight race between Al Gore and George W. Bush.

Vote swaps are agreements between two parties from different states to vote for either Gore or Green Party candidate Ralph Nader. The online arrangements are causing headaches for California election officials, but whether the practice is unlawful remains up for debate, as no exchange of money occur

[ButterflyBlood]

4. what does this have to do with Dean?

n/t

[jfkennedy]

5. Dean like Nader cannot win

Dean like Nader cannot win. If the Republicans can divide the liberals by using their own campaign then they will win.

Of course some of the facts are different going into 2004, but really think about it no one would of even seen Dean's name on the list running for 2004 unless he got some media attention (Ads).

And he has been receiving a ton of free advertising. Why?

Everyone knows our media is not news driven but advertising driven.

Some including myself think it is the Republicans that are funding the pro-Dean ads.