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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:03 AM
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Where can I find a thread to prove
that over half of the prisoners in Abu Gharib were not even trying to kill American soldiers?

Didn't the Red Cross decide that over 50% were nothing more than common criminals.

A rethug I know is making excuses for the rape story out of the WP.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:10 AM
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1. I don't know of a link, but from what I have read, many are just...
... "suspected insurgents". You know, they were picked up b/c they just didn't "look" right (a lot of brown-skinned folks over there to choose from; you don't even have to resort to racial profiling when everyone fits the profile).

I have also read that only a VERY tiny percentage of detainees are even suspected Al Qaeda (which means none probably are actually AL Qaeda).
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:14 AM
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2. I'm pretty sure I read a study the Red Cross did
that stated that many of the prisoners were nothing more than common criminals and did nothing to threaten American Soldiers lives.

And, I doubt if any are Al-Queda because I thought we sent them to Guantanimo Bay.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:16 AM
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5. Actually, what I read (again, no links) was some Army admission...
... that even only a very tiny percentage of detainees at Guantanamo were even suspected Al Qaeda.

When push comes to shove, they were forced to admit that we have very few suspected Al Qaeda operatives in custody, and the vast majority of detainess (even at Gitmo) are just "enemy combatants" or less.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:15 AM
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3. Here is a link
You could find one on DU, but I think you'd want to use another source to point him/her to - such as MSNBC or CNN.

I think the story originated in the Washington Post, but here is hte link I came up with:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4944094/


Helpful hint- if you donate to DU, you get a star by your name. It allows you to search DU archives for the info you need.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:15 AM
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4. Here 'ya go.......
GENEVA - A Red Cross report disclosed Monday said coalition intelligence officers estimated that 70-90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested by mistake and said Red Cross observers witnessed U.S. officers mistreating Abu Ghraib prisoners by keeping them naked in total darkness in empty cells.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1570070

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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:17 AM
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6. Oh, and if your rethug acqaintance is making excuses,
there may in fact be no hope.

There is no excuse.

I'd suggest typing just that - "There are no excuses" when you send off whichever link you decide to send. If they have an ounce of integrity left, they might actually feel some sense of shame in their attempt to make excuses.
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:36 AM
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7. Thanks for all the help! eom
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