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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 07:54 AM
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:01 AM
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1. Great
So except for this one area which is obviously the key difference, what differences are there between the two groups? One group puts a guy on a bus with a bomb and kills 20 people (including 3 children), the other doesn't, but for the purposes of this discussion we need to set that aside so that we can focus on equating the two.

Let's just focus on convincing each other that there is little difference between Islamic Religious fundementalists and American Conservatives. That's a helpful and productive exercise.

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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:10 AM
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3. But the other DOES do that!
What the hell is the Iraq war but a giant terrorist act perpetrated by the conservative right wing of America??
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:12 AM
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4. You really can't see the difference . . .
Between getting on a bus and indiscrminately kiling women and children, and the United States Military trying as hard as possible to avoid civilian casualties? I'm pretty sure we made the wrong decision in invading Iraq, but let's not go off the deep end.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:26 AM
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6. I am sure the families of the Iraqi children that we have killed
are comforted by these "facts".
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:36 AM
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9. My guess is that they aren't comforted
But that's war.

You have to extend a ilttle mercy and pity towards those who have lost children, of course.

But, as far as I know, none of those children are yours. And if you can't see the difference between a soldier trying not to kill civilians and a terrorist who specifically targets civilians, there's something wrong ethically with you.

Now, let me make clear that I think this war was a bad idea, and I don't support how we got there. I think that the Bush Administration, particularly Donald Rumsfeld and President Bush, should be held accountable for what they have done to the Iraqi people and the American Troops.

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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:52 AM
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10. "Hard as possible"? What war have you been watching?
US troops in Iraq have put preventing civillian casualties below EVERYTHING, including protecting the oil pipelines!
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:53 AM
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11. We use airplanes
And do our utmost to protect the life of our pilots. Meanwhile the bomb destroys all in it's wake. The difference being, as I see it, is that the one side puts all they have into it while the other washes their hands once the deed is done.

War is hell, whatever side you are on. The only solution to war is diplomacy. War is the result from a failure of diplomacy. Each and every warrior supports that failure, no matter what side you are on.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:24 AM
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:32 AM
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8. Well, what is your point?
If it is simply tyhat you don't know much about Extremist Islam and Extremist Christianity--well, there are plenty of books that are full of that knowledge.

But like I said, I suspect your point is that, in many essential matters, Right Wing Conservatives and Islamic Radicals are the same. Am I wrong?

Oh, and I'm well aware that out of the whole muslim world which numbers in the hundreds of millions, only a few have engaged in Terrorist activities.
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Kbowe Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:04 AM
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2. There isn't even difference between the two 'terratists'
The Islamic terrorists favor 'suicide bombings' the Christin'terrorists' favor high tech bombings. I guess you could say that the Christian terrorists get to kill many more people over time and get to do more infrastructure damage.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:27 AM
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7. Hardly a difference between Muslim Taliban and Christian Taliban
The reconstructionist Christians are no different than the sharia Muslims, both want to subordinate people and the government to their religion.

Of course, there is a difference, the name of their religion, and some of the particulars.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:55 AM
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12. Um
Since when did the hard right stop blowing up innocent civilians?
Vietnam: 1 million.
Iraq: 1 million (if you count the sanctions, or just a few thousands if you only count the recent bombing)

We call it "collateral damage", such a nice name for blowing up innocent civilians.

They are just two sides to the holy war.
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