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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:44 AM
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Poll question: Who is your SECOND choice for President?
Regardless of who your first choice is, who is your second choice?
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:45 AM
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1. Kerry, given Clark is not a candidate yet.
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displacedvermoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:52 AM
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2. Kerry is my second choice to Dean
and that is one reason why I am so friggin tired of this on-going string of theads bashing either Dean or Kerry. I see a lot of similarity in the views of these two men, and I will be pleased to have either man in the White House. Kerry probably is more liberal than Dean, Deanis more moderate than Kerry. I feel both men can beat shrubass, and think it likely any of several more of the candidates (Edwards, Graham, Clark, probably Gephardt) can beat Bush given a well-run campaign.

What does it make me if my first choice is Dean, and Kerry is my second choice. A Dean groupie with war-mongering tendancies?

I've given money to both men, BTW, and could see giving some to Clark as well should he come in.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:04 PM
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5. Zogby says they can all beat Bush
__Bush Re-Elect Drops to 42%-47% - Tied with Unnamed Dem

"A Zogby poll released today shows that when asked if George Bush deserves re-election, only 46% of Americans said yes and a narrow majority, 47%, said it is time for someone new. The poll, with a margin of error of +/- 3%, on a generic 2004 ballot between Bush and a Democratic candidate, Bush received 47% of support, and a Democratic candidate received 44%, putting the Bush and a Democratic candidate in a statistical dead heat still a year before the Democratic candidate is selected. The second poll, released yesterday by Fox News/Opinion Dynamics and published in National Journal's Hotline showed should the 2004 election be held today, those planning to reelect Bush had dropped to 42%."

http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=5528

I'm pretty sure it'll get worse for Bush the closer we get to the election.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:54 PM
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12. Exactly...
and I've been saying so for over a year. Any Dem CAN beat Bush. With voting irregularities we need the widest margin available, so that Dem can go in with a MANDATE to govern, and bring a Dem Congress with him.
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:02 PM
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14. We need the margin
to avoid being robbed again by Florida 2000-style hanky-panky. It's not enough to just WIN elections anymore.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:38 PM
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26. Not only a margin....
...a monumental ass-whoopin'.

The country needs to scream "No!"
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:10 PM
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19. You're really reaching here
No dem can probably bring a dem congress with him in 04, but I '06 it's a possibility

The best thing that could happen, looking at this objectively, is maybe barely gaining back the senate in 04 (50-49-1), because the odds in 04 are stacked way against the dems from just not losing more seats

and in the house the best that would probably ever happen is getting like 6 seats in the house in 04, and another 5-10 in 06, if we have a dem president who has become popular.

To do this we need an overhaul in our perception particularly in rural america and the south.

We need Edwards to do this

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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:36 PM
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25. best case scenario in Senate
Dems easily pick up Senate seat in Illinois (+1)
Tenenbaum pulls an off upset against DeMint in South Carolina (0)
Knowles narrowly edges out Murkowski in Alaska (+1)
Hoeffel beats Specter in a close race or Toomey in a landslide if Toomey somehow wins the primary (+1)
Young or Michelle Nunn enter the Georgia Senate race and win (0)
Edwards or Boweles narrowly fight off Burr in North Carolina (0)
Farmer pulls off an upset against Bond in Missouri (+1)
Nickles retires in Oklahoma and Brad Carson or Drew Edmondson pick up his seat (+1)
Fred Cowan, Charlie Owen or any other candidate in Kentucky knocks off Bunning (+1)

that's a six seat pickup, putting us at 54-45-1. A long shot, but it does show there are many possibilities for retaking the Senate.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:59 AM
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3. Kucinich...
I like 'em.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:03 PM
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4. First Choice Dean, Second Choice Al Gore
I'd have to go with Gore.

I can't say that I really like any of the other current candidates.
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:11 PM
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6. First Choice Gore/Clark
Second choice Gore/Clark
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:12 PM
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7. Carol Moseley Braun is my second choice
I just love her :D
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ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:13 PM
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8. Kerry after Dean.
Like em both. If only Kerry was a bit more interesting to listen to.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 06:01 PM
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29. if only Kerry had some testicles
. . . sorry, can't stand him.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:15 PM
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9. Clark
And my first choice isn't Dean. :)
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:17 PM
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10. Kucinich
My first choice is Dean.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:50 PM
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11. Interesting spread
I don't know if we've done a poll like this before.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 12:58 PM
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13. Hi Dan.
:hi: I am so glad that we finally had some rain! My vote goes for Dennis and Howard.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:35 PM
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18. Hi Myrna!
Big thunder cracks last night. And we needed it.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:05 PM
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15. Bob Graham
Edited on Wed Aug-20-03 01:07 PM by VermontDem2004
Wesley Clark would be my #2 if he officially jumped into the race.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:20 PM
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16. Dean's my second to Kerry
When Clark enters, everything changes....
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 01:27 PM
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17. Haven't settled on my first choice yet.
Edited on Wed Aug-20-03 02:21 PM by burr
But of all the candidates running, Dean is the candidate I agree with on most of the issues. But I still believe it is a little early to commit to a single candidate without knowing more.

Kucinich would have been my first choice for several reasons. First, he is the only candidate proposing a National Healthcare program that would cover every citizen from birth to death. He is the only candidate proposing to bust up the monopolies and to regulate corporate control of the media. He is the only candidate running who voted against that murder of liberity labeled the Patriot Act. And he is the best candidate to protect the rights of workers in every state to join or form a union.

So why is he my second choice, not my first? First, I believe it would be a mistake to lower the retirement age of Social Security back to 65. This should not be done until we again have government surplusses without dipping into the trust fund, and have made progress in paying off the National Debt. Secondly, I do not understand his position on the issue of stem cell research. If it was human cloning he wanted to ban, he could of voted for a Democratic bill which would of done the same thing. But instead he hurts those with cancer, diabetis, and other cronic medical problems that could be cured, by voting to ban this form of research completely. Finally, I disagree with his position on "No Child Left Behind". My view is no matter how much that you fund this legislation, it will hurt not help our public education system.



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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:32 PM
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20. I said Kerry...
but Kucinich is starting to grow on me.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 02:43 PM
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21. Kucinich after Gephardt
Both come from working-class backgrounds. Gephardt speaks to my head while Kucinich speaks to my heart. Both will fight for the working person against the international banking interests. I'm not so sure the others will, or can.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:26 PM
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22. I hear you.
Kucinich speaks to my heart and my head.
Kerry speaks to my head and my heart.

They both make me feel like there's great hope for this world.
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burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:55 PM
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27. Are you stating that Gephardt is your second choice?
Or just that Kerry or Kucinich would be your first choice?
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1opinion Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:27 PM
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23. Sharpton is a joke.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 09:00 PM
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31. meaning?
Is he as big a joke as GW?
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:29 PM
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24. Kerry, Clark or Dean
those are my top 3, and I'm not entirely sure which one I'm supporting yet.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 05:58 PM
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28. I voted for Kerry.
Kerry: Everybody's second choice

How 'bout that for a campaign slogan?

No offense to Kerry folks, that line was just sitting there BEGGING to be uttered!

:evilgrin:
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DavidNY Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 08:54 PM
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30. I voted for Graham as my second choice...
but only because Clark is not a candidate yet. Kerry is my first choice; Graham will be a very close third if and when Clark enters, but I think Clark will edge him out by a nose.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 09:01 PM
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32. How about ABB? n/t
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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 09:13 PM
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33. Kucinich is first, Kerry second
n/t
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