Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Who Is The Most Electable Possible Democratic Candidate

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:20 PM
Original message
Poll question: Who Is The Most Electable Possible Democratic Candidate
Edited on Wed Aug-20-03 04:20 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
We all know that this maladministration has done more to undermine the Constitution and America's good will in the world than the forty two that preceded it.

So, which Dem has the best chance of stopping it and why
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:20 PM
Response to Original message
1. Haven't I seen this poll before?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:21 PM
Response to Original message
2. Voted for Edwards, should have voted for Clark--BUT
it's impossible to tell without Clark actually being IN the race.

For all I know he's as boring in a speech as a block of cheese and wants to raise the retirement age to 85.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:22 PM
Response to Original message
3. All, equally - so vote for the best candidate
__Bush Re-Elect Drops to 42%-47% - Tied with Unnamed Dem

"A Zogby poll released today shows that when asked if George Bush deserves re-election, only 46% of Americans said yes and a narrow majority, 47%, said it is time for someone new. The poll, with a margin of error of +/- 3%, on a generic 2004 ballot between Bush and a Democratic candidate, Bush received 47% of support, and a Democratic candidate received 44%, putting the Bush and a Democratic candidate in a statistical dead heat still a year before the Democratic candidate is selected. The second poll, released yesterday by Fox News/Opinion Dynamics and published in National Journal's Hotline showed should the 2004 election be held today, those planning to reelect Bush had dropped to 42%."

http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=5528

Every Democratic candidate can beat Bush. We don't have to "settle." We should pick the candidate who is best on the issues.

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. That Poll Is Getting Old
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. So is the BFEE
I guess that's why most people are ready to reject it in favor of an "unnamed Democrat."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. There Are More Current Polls
than Zogby that have * beating a generic Dem
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chadm Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:25 PM
Response to Original message
4. The falacy of "Anybody But Bush"
This really should be an entirely new thread, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post new threads.

I highly recommend that anybody who really believes the "Anybody But Bush" mantra or the "Most Electable" garbage check out this excellent piece:

http://www.eatthestate.org/07-24/NobodybutBush.htm

"But what indication have the "anybody but Bush" Democrats given that they will be able to win next time? If their strategy consists solely of frightening people away from a progressive or Green Party candidate, they aren't going to win next time either. (Fact: more Democrats voted for Bush in 2000 than voted for Nader; Fact: It was the massive vote fraud in Florida that got Bush into the White House, a fraud the Democratic leadership didn't have the guts to fight against.)"

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. GREAT ARTICLE! It warrents an entire thread.
I've had a lot of trouble with ABB. Even if someone is willing to vote for anyone but Bush, they should try to keep that on the down-low because it is an indicator to party leadership saying "you don't have to try to please me at all". I believe that it is very important that we make clear that we want HUGE differences from Bush, not just anybody else.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #4
16. I just don't buy that - ANY Democrat is better than Bush
And I mean ANY Democrat. One step at a time - get a Democrat in office and stop the forward motion of the bush regime. What about next time? We address that when the time comes, not now.

Once a Democrat is in the White House THEN work on improvements in the Democratic party. Splitting the Democratic vote is only going to assure another bush term.

The Green Party does not have enough support to carry the day. It's just not realistic to think so many centrist and moderate Democrats are going to make that quantum leap. So you have a choice - a half loaf or none at all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:30 PM
Response to Original message
6. Clark is not a candidate
and it is questionable if he is a Democrat.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. I Think The Operational Word is Possible
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Noordam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:30 PM
Response to Original message
7. IMHO,,, the poll should have been WHO should drop out
because they could lose to *. I am thinking of Holy Joe and a couple others.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Adjoran Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #7
14. hey, I like Al Sharpton
But anybody who thinks he is "electable" in 2004 has been toking too much today.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. I could have been toking for a week
but I still wouldn't of picked Sharpton as the most electable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:39 PM
Response to Original message
11. Ok Sharpton has 20 Votes
I noticed Sharpton/Sanders had more votes then anybody. We have some freepers in here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. Nah...
We just couldn't vote for the Al we wanted ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:40 PM
Response to Original message
12. Sharpton???
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:47 PM
Response to Original message
18. I think Sharpton's strong showing here
is a message to everyone that the polls might be coming too often. No offense to Al -- great guy, but the message is there to be seen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. I think Freepers came on here
to screw with our polls.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. Nope
DG people decided to rally a "vote for Al" in polls drive
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
burr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 04:59 PM
Response to Original message
21.  To be electable, start with an alternative course for the future.
Edited on Wed Aug-20-03 05:02 PM by burr
Again all of these polls have a serious problem.

First they include Clark, not yet a candidate...and we barely know what his campaign agenda will include. Also it is hardly a matter of who is or isn't electable, but whether or not shrub is still considered beatable in another year.

What do we know about Clark...he opposes shrub's tax cuts, he disagrees with the invasion of Iraq, and he wants to try a different approach on Homeland Security. What don't we know about Clark? His political party, how far he would go on healthcare reform, and what his views are on radically reducing expenditures in the DOD.

Democrats and Republicans seem to approve of throwing money at the problem when it comes to military spending, but don't give a damn when it comes to public education or healthcare. Does this really improve our nation's security?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Dec 27th 2024, 06:45 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC