Will Iraq Be Bush's "Waterloo"???

[Starpass]

I have this voice that keeps whispering in the back of my mind which I would like to shoot 'cause it won't go away!! Every time I get pumped up over issues or polls and believe that Bush can, indeed, be taken down in '04, the damn voice starts yacking. It says "forgetaboutit, UNLESS". The "unless" is unless what Bush likes to tout as his great glory ends up being his worst nightmare.

The guy has absoulutely nothing else to run on since he has crapped up everything he's touched. Obviously, his whole wad is going to be packed into 'red, white and blue' as he shows pictures of our glorious troops, landings on carriers and war. I'm getting some "inklings" and don't know if it's just me or if you, too, are sensing things.

When this bomb went off in Baghdad blowing up the UN building, I noted that our clown media tried to sell us an "angry" Bush who was going to go "smoke them out"..again. I think they were desperately trying to reignite the liquored-up patriotism following 9/11 or as we landed in Iraq several months ago. I remembered that latest polls now put the numbers at 45 to 50% of the people outright saying that "Iraq was not worth it". I know the media wanted to change that; but my gut feeling is that it will backfire. I think those sights just re-emphasized the "what the hell are we doing there and when are we getting out" feelings of many people and converted a few more to that way of thinking. Now, I am concerned about one trick Bush is going to play.

Next summer (hmmm-Dem convention time, maybe) he's determined Iraq is going to have it's first election (choose from any one of the goons the US has provided for you). He wants this hyped like the old "look at the little girls going to school in Afghanistan". I don't know, folks...I don't know. Will that be enough to get the people all drunk again; or will the people have totally had it and not care by that time. Bottom line: this Iraq situation has all the ingredients of being the thing (and unfortunately, I feel, the only thing) that can finally get the American people to turn on this bastard. We had hoped that the ever growing list of revelations about this regime would take him out; but they just seem to bounce off him. Do you think that we will eventually be getting numbers like 75% of the people or more are sick of Iraq???? Will people be all sick and tired of the patriotism jag???

[realFedUp]

1. Waterlogs

Bush has a Waterloo every other day...but
no one is stopping this little man.

[FlashHarry]

2. Nope, but it'll be his Chechnya. N/T

[shockandawed]

3. Waterloo?? Are you serious??

This would imply previous successes and an elite mind.

Bush has failed at everything he has ever done. He did not even get elected. Everything attributable to him as a success was handed to him or gained by fraud.

Iraq is the Republican party's Waterloo.

[Starpass]

4. Shockand----that brings up another point

Do you think that if the people "turn", they will also do some "turning" against the republicans in general?? Just reading in Time this a.m. about the dilema we are going to have down south where it is predicted we are going to lose all these seats being vacated (and possibly vacated) by Dems. They predict because of the strong "hate Democrats" mindset of the white male that the ones who might have a chance are females who can tap into both female and minority votes. Somehow, I don't see those deadhead white males down there ever voting for a Dem or refraining to vote for a Repuke even if Rush converted!!!

[KoKo]

5. For the Angry White Male all over America......it will be the "Economy."

No amount of disaster in Iraq or dying of troops will change their mind. It didn't change their minds about Viet Nam and it won't change them now.

It will be the economy.

Starpass, you didn't ask me the question but I answered it anyway......:evilgrin:

[catmandu57]

6. There are 14 months until nov 04

Iraq is not going to get better, the economy is not going to get better, there is a possibility of another attack. I don't see how gw since is going to improve anything. He can't cut taxes, it looks more and more like a draft coming back. Some of the media are waking up and showing him for the fool he is.

When those angry white males wake up and find their children feeding the machine, I don't think they'll pass the jug and rally round good ole boy gw since.

Too much can happen in the next fourteen months and I don't see anything good coming down the pike.

[glarius]

7. Unless the M-E-D-I-A starts doing it's job it isn't too promising

I'm not American so you might not agree with my perception...But sitting here in Canada watching all that's going on in the U.S.A., I am amazed. EVEN THE LATEST revelations about the connection of Cheney et al to the power company in Ohio responsible for the recent blackout...along with all the other revelations about the phony reasons for going to war (WMD's, uranium from Niger etc.).....are just sort of tossed off as not important....The media has abandoned it's responsibility and gives Bush and company a pass on everything....I think Bush would have to commit murder, live on TV before they would be negative about him.....Is it because the networks are controlled by companies that don't want to rock the boat????....I watched as President Clinton, who is intelligent, informed, well liked by the world, was reviled daily by Republican politicians and media people alike because he HAD ILLICIT SEX!!!...And the way the media jumped on Al Gore; also intelligent and well informed about the rest of the world....It seems to me that the American people will never get the true picture of George Bush and company unless they start seeing it daily on TV....Don't the media CARE what happens to their country? .

[Starpass]

8. Oh, Canada---I just had a vision

You talk about how our media just jumped on top of Clinton and Gore and beat the shit so to speak out of these two intelligent men. But, of course, they promote George as just "downright" great guy. I think I just realized how to win '04. We start a campaign stating that it has been found that George actually has a 180 IQ, reads the equivalent of an encyclopedia a night, can figure complex math formulas without pencil and paper, and loves to talk philosophy with WH guests. That should just about get him removed from office even before '04, don't you think??? We, with all our power, might and nukes, simply cannot stomach intelligence.....it's a disease we intend to wipe out ASAP here in the US of A..

[glarius]

10. You may be on to something....LOL

:)

[Beetwasher]

9. On Elections: They would be VERY risky if they're held

before there's any semblence of order in the country. Think about how much it would piss off the resistance if the US holds elections for it's hand picked stooges. They might as well paint huge bullseye's on all the candidates and polling places. It would be a fucking nightmare, and they'd be beyond stupid to try...

[UTUSN]

11. Caligula Ruled 3 Years, 10 Months, 8 Days

It took the Romans "three years, ten months and eight days" to get to know the real Caligula. This would take us to, uh, November 2004.

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http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/suetonius-caligula.html

.... rearing a viper for the Roman people and a Phaethon (": a son of Helios who drives his father's sun-chariot through the sky but loses control and is struck down by a thunderbolt of Zeus") for the world. ....

.... he poisoned Tiberius, as some think, and ordered that his ring be taken from him while he still breathed ....

.... By thus gaining the throne he fulfilled the highest hopes of the Roman people, or I may say of all mankind, since he was the prince most earnestly desired by the great part of the provincials and soldiers, many of whom had known him in his infancy ....

.... He even used openly to deplore the state of his times, because they had been marked by no public disasters,.....and every now and then he wished for the destruction of his armies, for famine, pestilence, fires, or a great earthquake. ....

.... ruled three years, ten months and eight days ....
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